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Means of transport for the last journey?
Published 03/12/2008 @ 01:07:37, By BlackIce_GTS
Animatronixx: Wow, those are great, thanks! (love the Imperials, too)
Hirohito's hearse appears to be a third generation (A30) Nissan Gloria.


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Means of transport for the last journey?
Published 11/01/2009 @ 13:34:31, By ingo
Yesterday I say a Chrysler Voyager from the early 90ies, still in use as a funeral car. From outside I couldn't identify any body-conversion.


@Animatronixx: hast die den VW T3-Transporter in den Kleinanzeigen der aktuellen "Oldtimer Markt" gesehen? Das war wohl ein Wagen für die zweitletzte Fahrt, oder?
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Published 11/01/2009 @ 14:00:40, By Animatronixx
Yesterday I say a Chrysler Voyager from the early 90ies, still in use as a funeral car. From outside I couldn't identify any body-conversion.


Yes, there are many of them around. I hardly care about them, because that's not what I mean when I'm talking about funeral vehicles. They're functional, but not of esthetic value. :wink:

@Animatronixx: hast die den VW T3-Transporter in den Kleinanzeigen der aktuellen "Oldtimer Markt" gesehen? Das war wohl ein Wagen für die zweitletzte Fahrt, oder?


Nein, habe ich nicht gesehen, da ich die Zeitung schon lange nicht mehr regelmäßig lese. T3 Busse sind schon ein paar umgebaut worden, einige davon auch durchaus als ernstgemeinte Bestattungsfahrzeuge. Speziell Frickinger aus Augsburg hat einige davon umgerüstet. Sind halt leider auch meistens nix fürs Auge...
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Published 12/01/2009 @ 16:15:49, By ingo
optisch ist das ein reiner transporter, ohne fenster, ohne alles, nur ein bestattungsunternehmen-schriftzug ist drauf.
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Published 12/01/2009 @ 18:21:56, By Animatronixx
Dann ist es ggf. auch die Sparbrötchen-Variante "Eigenausbau durch den Bestatter" - kommt auch dann und wann vor. :grin:
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Published 16/02/2009 @ 21:28:33, By ingo
@Animatronixx: letzten Freitag war ich in Borken bei der zu der Firma Bleker: http://www.bleker.org/bleker/index.html
gehörenden Karosseriebauwerkstatt. Die bauen auch Bestattungswagen, wir sprachen darüber. Ich entdeckte das, als ich vor 2 Jahren meine K 70-Sitze bei dem dazugehörigen Polsterer aufbauen ließ.
Ich habe vier Mercedes Vito gesehen, die gerade umgebaut werden.

Der Meister erzählte, daß deren Umbauten nicht unter dem Namen Bleker vertrieben werden, sondern von der Fa.Kuhlmann: http://www.kuhlmann-cars.de/

Prospekte oder Kataloge hat Bleker nicht, da die Umbauten immer Einzelaufträge sind. Leider vergaß ich zu fragen, was sie alles schon umgebaut haben.

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Published 16/02/2009 @ 22:14:59, By Animatronixx
Hey, Danke Dir - genau,wie ich es mir seinerzeit gedacht hatte! Das ergibt ein rundes Bild, da die ersten Fahrzeuge von Kuhlmann Cars vermehrt auf Citroen (CX, XM, Jumper, Jumpy...) basierten und Kuhlmann seinerzeit keine eigene Produktionsstätte hatte. Jetzt habe ich endlich das fehlende Mosaiksteinchen von dieser Story. :smile:

Somit wird Bleker heute weiterhin für die Transporter-Umbauten von Kuhlmann zuständig sein (in der Tat Vitos en masse), während die PKW-basierten Bestattungswagen heute von der schwedischen Firma Nilsson stammen, die seit einigen Jahren zu Kuhlmann gehört.
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Published 16/02/2009 @ 22:45:03, By ingo
Der Meister wollte, als ich ihm sagte, daß die Frage in einem Internet-Forum aufgekommen ist, wissen, welches Forum was war. IMCDB kannte er nicht, aber er sei ständig in den Bestattungswagen-foren präsent "Um zu sehen, über was man in der Szene so spricht", wie er sagte.
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Published 16/05/2009 @ 10:22:22, By ingo
@Animatronixx: neulich entdeckte ich im Vorbeifahren auf dem Hof eines Auto-Pfandhauses (oder des Gebrauchtwagenhändlers daneben, das war nicht klar zu erkennen) in Duisburg, einen Bestattungswagen auf Ford P7a-Basis. Sollte man da nachhaken?
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Published 11/03/2010 @ 11:50:39, By ingo
Yesterday I saw two Opel-based hearses, one more, one less stylish. The first was an Omega B, the other one a Movano.
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Published 23/03/2010 @ 08:43:53, By Lateef
You'd probably already figured it out by now..
http://www.geting.se/image.php/230728-Scorpio4ever.jpg

:thumbs:

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Published 23/03/2010 @ 22:02:53, By ingo
Scorpio MKI. The coachbuilding-style looks British.

In the last "SPIEGEL"-news magazine was a short article about a funeral in Britain (Wales maybe), where they drove around with the hearse (and the coffin inside), with sign "I was killed by smoking", so a kind of anti-smoking campaign. The hearse was based on a Vauxhall Omega.


@Animatronixx: maybe you are interested to enjoy our plate-collector-forum www.pl8s.biz (sorry for the others, it's in German and the most members are, more and less randomly, collectors of German plates), as recently we've opened a thread about hearses. Sure, the main thing for the guys are hearses with old and rare plates. The DDR-vehicle-freak has contributed three pics of funeral-cars from the DDR, an Opel Blitz, an early Barkas and a trailer.

The initial for this thread was a scene in the news, one guy has seen. About a bad crash on the A 24. The victim was transported in a KAD-Opel from the late 60ies with a plate from PCH.
Until now thre are pics of three Volvo 9-Series from HHM, GC and PCH, a trailer from E, a Vito from the town of Nürnberg (authority-plate), a Barkas from RL, A Mercedes W124 from HC, a trailer from PRÜ and a Mercedes W 110 from ERK. :wink:
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Published 23/03/2010 @ 22:40:19, By Lateef
Scorpio MKI.


It's actually a Granada MkIII, but that's really the same car. As you can see it has a Northern Irish plate. It was recently for sale, but it was sold on 1st of March.

Here's the advertising where I found the photo: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/FORD-GRANADA-HEARSE-AUTO-BANGER-RACING-PRIVATE-PLATE_W0QQitemZ140384248980QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAutomobiles_UK?hash=item20af8da49- 4&afsrc=1

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Published 23/03/2010 @ 23:14:42, By chicomarx
http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo124/marxbrosfan/saabhearse.jpg
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Published 27/03/2010 @ 12:41:34, By antp
Nice, but I prefered the one based on Saab 9000, looking more like a stretched limousine than a van like this one
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Published 11/02/2015 @ 23:28:39, By ingo
Some people may wondering, why this hearse

http://www.tagesspiegel.de/berlin/liveticker-trauerfeier-fuer-richard-von-weizsaecker-berlin-trauert-abschied-vom-altbundespraesidenten/11356498.html

(funeral of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_von_Weizsaecker )

doesn't wear a license plate.

A guy in my plate-forum explanined, that this is a an explicit regulation for a state funeral in Germany. The hearse has to be without license plates and without any lettering of the undertaker.

Interesting. Didn't know that before.

Latest Edition: 11/02/2015 @ 23:29:21
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Means of transport for the last journey?
Published 12/02/2015 @ 16:58:01, By Gamer
A K70 hearse would be hard to make, as there was no K70 Variant...
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Published 12/02/2015 @ 17:03:41, By Sandie
There are plenty of cars that have no wagon version but are/were still common for hearse conversion. Jaguar XJ, Rover 800, Vauxhall Senator and Austin Ambassador/Princess being ones from the top of my head.
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Published 12/02/2015 @ 18:48:24, By dsl
... there was no K70 Variant...

There were prototypes - Our K70 Expert can tell you more .....
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Published 12/02/2015 @ 19:33:15, By ingo
A K70 hearse would be hard to make, as there was no K70 Variant...


This was one of the first things for me as a K 70-newbie 25 years ago: asking a Hearse-registration (not Animatronixx, but he know the other guy), if there were any K 70- or RO 80-based Hearses - no, none.


There are plenty of cars that have no wagon version but are/were still common for hearse conversion. Jaguar XJ, Rover 800, Vauxhall Senator and Austin Ambassador/Princess being ones from the top of my head.


As Animatronixx told me, this is not the question for several Hearse-coachbuilders. The smaller companies often take used cars and then -because of the lower price- accident cars with a smashed back. Then it doesn't matter, if it's an Estate, Sedan or Hatchback.




There were prototypes - Our K70 Expert can tell you more .....


Just two of the total 23 NSU-prototypes. Only a handful photos is left over:

http://faimg1.forum-auto.com/mesimages/264762/k70komb2.jpg

http://www.k70-club.de/images/werksfotos/K70-prototyp-kombi-vore.jpg

It had a second bench-seat! The construction was similar to the later Mercedes W123 T-Modell, but the seat-position was te same as in the Peugeot Break.
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