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Published 12/04/2021 @ 01:42:08, By JB007
A mistake has been made for several years, indeed the VW Passat Variant are called "Passat SW" in France, since the 6th generation (2006+).
Here is the list of affected vehicles, model is "Passat SW" and Made for F.
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_770262-Volkswagen-Passat-Variant-Typ-3C-2005.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_321376-Volkswagen-Passat-Variant-Typ-3C-2006.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_682579-Volkswagen-Passat-Variant-Typ-3C-2006.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_781494-Volkswagen-Passat-Variant-Typ-3C-2006.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_817385-Volkswagen-Passat-Variant-Typ-3C-2006.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_842058-Volkswagen-Passat-Variant-Typ-3C-2006.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_848768-Volkswagen-Passat-Variant-Typ-3C-2006.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_875147-Volkswagen-Passat-Variant-Typ-3C-2006.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_971462-Volkswagen-Passat-Variant-Typ-3C-2006.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1030514-Volkswagen-Passat-Variant-Typ-3C-2006.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1127772-Volkswagen-Passat-Variant-Typ-3C-2006.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1118087-Volkswagen-Passat-Variant-Typ-3C-2006.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1238218-Volkswagen-Passat-Variant-Typ-3C-2006.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1273863-Volkswagen-Passat-Variant-Typ-3C-2006.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1312182-Volkswagen-Passat-Variant-Typ-3C-2006.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1374275-Volkswagen-Passat-Variant-Typ-3C-2006.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1445611-Volkswagen-Passat-Variant-Typ-3C-2006.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1478951-Volkswagen-Passat-Variant-Typ-3C-2006.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_624683-Volkswagen-Passat-Variant-Typ-3C-2011.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_628164-Volkswagen-Passat-Variant-Typ-3C-2011.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_707105-Volkswagen-Passat-Variant-Typ-3C-2011.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_780605-Volkswagen-Passat-Variant-Typ-3C-2011.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_781473-Volkswagen-Passat-Variant-Typ-3C-2011.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_844602-Volkswagen-Passat-Variant-Typ-3C-2011.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_820019-Volkswagen-Passat-Variant-Typ-3C-2011.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_814711-Volkswagen-Passat-Variant-Typ-3C-2011.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_926754-Volkswagen-Passat-Variant-Typ-3C-2011.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_962088-Volkswagen-Passat-Variant-Typ-3C-2011.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_961588-Volkswagen-Passat-Variant-Typ-3C-2011.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_908871-Volkswagen-Passat-Variant-Typ-3C-2011.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1087068-Volkswagen-Passat-Variant-Typ-3C-2011.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1091947-Volkswagen-Passat-Variant-Typ-3C-2011.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1101704-Volkswagen-Passat-Variant-Typ-3C-2011.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1137080-Volkswagen-Passat-Variant-Typ-3C-2011.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1364059-Volkswagen-Passat-Variant-Typ-3C-2011.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_997549-Volkswagen-Passat-Variant-Typ-3C-2012.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1196195-Volkswagen-Passat-Variant-Typ-3G-2015.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1003590-Volkswagen-Passat-Variant-Typ-3G-2015.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1177041-Volkswagen-Passat-Variant-Typ-3G-2015.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1359577-Volkswagen-Passat-Variant-Typ-3G-2017.html

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Published 12/04/2021 @ 20:07:53, By antp
Done, thanks

I used the years in which they were replaced, not the model years, since in Europe there are plated 2001 Voyagers that are the older type etc.
The Voyagers to change to RG are the ones that now have RS as code, the Grand Cherokee to update to ZG are ZJ ones, WG are WJ ones and WH are WK ones :wink:


:confused: sorry I don't understand what you mean.
What exactly should be changed to what?

Latest Edition: 12/04/2021 @ 20:11:02
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Published 12/04/2021 @ 20:31:46, By 48bux
Sorry if I didn't explain myself well.
Grand Cherokee [ZJ] with built in Austria tag have to be changed to [ZG]
Grand Cherokee [WJ] with built in Austria tag have to be changed to [WG]
Grand Cherokee [WK] with built in Austria tag have to be changed to [WH]
Voyagers [RS] with built in Austria tag have to be changed to [RG]
1996-2000 Voyagers with built in Austria tag (many are code less, others have American code NS) have to be changed to [GS] (I'll comment on the few plated 2001 ones that aren't the new body)
Hope now it's clearer :wink:

Latest Edition: 12/04/2021 @ 20:32:45
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Published 13/04/2021 @ 10:07:42, By antp
done

Voyagers [RS] with built in Austria tag have to be changed to [RG]
1996-2000 Voyagers with built in Austria tag (many are code less, others have American code NS) have to be changed to [GS]


None seem to match these criteria :confused:
(or they were already renamed with the previous info posted)

Well, check that all is ok now

Latest Edition: 13/04/2021 @ 10:08:16
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Published 13/04/2021 @ 12:29:58, By 48bux
It's OK, I'm commenting to the one that didn't have the Austria tag :wink:
Sorry, 2001 ones should be [RG], not [GS]. These ones: http://www.imcdb.org/search.php?resultsStyle=asList&sortBy=0&yearFrom=2001&yearTo=- 2001&makeMatch=2&make=Chrysler+&modelMatch=1&model=Voyager&modelInclModel=on&modelInclChassis=- on&mk=&origin=&madein=AT&madefor=&role=
Among them, there's a couple that are the older body style, I'll comment on those separately :smile:

Latest Edition: 13/04/2021 @ 12:38:01
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Published 13/04/2021 @ 14:41:59, By antp
Updated
For the older ones, alternatively, for batch update of a list of vehicles that have to be picked one by one you can also post links like JB did above, it is easy for me to extract vehicles ID from that for doing it on the server directly.

Latest Edition: 13/04/2021 @ 14:42:12
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Published 13/04/2021 @ 15:10:18, By 48bux
Ok, I'll do that. Thanks and sorry for the confusion :smile:
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Published 19/04/2021 @ 03:11:22, By JB007
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Published 19/04/2021 @ 20:45:38, By 48bux
[LE] is the code also for the Chrysler 300C Touring that were built in Austria. Thanks in advance! :smile:
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Published 20/04/2021 @ 07:57:33, By antp
There is some things to clean in the 300 C
- Those listed as "300 C" instead of just 300 as model should have a "made for" tag
- Those listed as "made for EU" should all be "Made in Austria" I suppose (including those from the point above if the "made for" happens to be EU, or another country for which they were made in Austria)
Is https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=843835 an error or where there EU models made elsewhere?
- What about Russian ones? They seem to often be listed as "Made in Canada" but with the 300 C name; they should have a "made for RUS" tag then.

Latest Edition: 20/04/2021 @ 08:00:25
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Published 20/04/2021 @ 12:06:50, By 48bux
- Yes, I think so, since American ones didn't have C as part of the model name
- Yes, personally I haven't (yet?) met in my research an EU model not built in Austria, haven't checked RHD/UK ones though because they don't pull the VIN, but I think we can do all "made for EU" ones made in Austria by default unless proven otherwise?
- Russian ones very often are grey import NA models, so I think those are to check one by one to split EU from NA models. :wink:
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Published 21/04/2021 @ 07:28:34, By antp
For Russian models they are not always "C" then - but as you said it is a check to do one by one.
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Published 23/04/2021 @ 00:00:55, By 993cc
Alfa Mattas were officially either AR51 or 52 'Matta's. People often stick '1900' before that because of chassis plate saying 'Tipo 1900' even though this is not found in documents. But 1900 M Matta doesn't make any sense since M is abbreviation for Matta. So it's one or the other. I didn't find anything to explain what 'M' might mean other than Matta.. Plus in period brochures I see the full 'Matta' designation with quotations. Above comments can also be found on the first of the following cars. AR51 or AR52 can stay as description wherever available though there really is no way to tell (even indicator position etc don't say much, the same for civilian 52 versus military/police 51 -they can be either). So...
These should be 1951 1900 'Matta':
www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1145685.html
www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=209037
www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=327398
www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=548068
www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=995813
www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=1456209

..and these 1900 'Matta' with whatever year:
www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=167768
www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=883141
www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=1146462
www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=1149015

Latest Edition: 23/04/2021 @ 00:04:27
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Published 23/04/2021 @ 00:13:03, By 48bux
The M stands for "Militare", "Matta" (=crazy) it's a semi-official nickname, a bit like "Duetto" :wink:
https://forum.clubalfa.it/threads/piu-matta-della-matta-alfa-romeo-1900-m-matta-ar51-e-ar52.13815/page-2
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Published 23/04/2021 @ 01:19:08, By 993cc
Would make sense, though in all docs I've found they say just Matta AR51/52 or 1900 Matta, so I'm still not entirely convinced : :dawafigti:
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Published 23/04/2021 @ 01:29:49, By 48bux
http://www.cuorialfisti.com/speciali/matta.htm
I don't know for sure, but here too it is said that the M was for Militare (AR=autovettura da ricognizione, M=militare)
You can find there also production data for both variants :smile:

Latest Edition: 23/04/2021 @ 01:30:11
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Published 23/04/2021 @ 01:52:15, By 993cc
..which production data confirms what I concluded during my search elsewhere, that you can find civilian cars in both AR51 and 52 chassis. As for the other question I'll keep looking for more documentation.. :benou_google:
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Published 24/04/2021 @ 14:30:48, By JB007
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Published 27/04/2021 @ 15:25:42, By 48bux
All Fiat 850T use [100GF] as chassis code :wink:
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Published 28/04/2021 @ 09:49:05, By antp
Done
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Published 28/04/2021 @ 22:39:50, By 48bux
Thank you! :wink:
Also, all 2008+ Fiat Fiorino 3a serie, Qubo, Fiorino Qubo, Fiorino Panorama and Fiorino Combi are [225], and built in Turkey.

Latest Edition: 28/04/2021 @ 22:42:31
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