Subject: Mass change model info thread
12/12/2024 @ 11:21:06: MisterZ: Mass change model info thread
2005+:

https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1914577-BMW-X3-E83-2004.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1040603-BMW-X3-E83-2004.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_795697-BMW-X3-E83-2004.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_723760-BMW-X3-E83-2004.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_111265-BMW-X3-E83-2004.html
19/12/2024 @ 19:17:47: antp: Mass change model info thread
I post here before doing the change, cf these posts in the non-unidentified thread:
https://imcdb.opencommunity.be/forum_topic-1987-90807-Non_Unidentified_Vehicles.html#p90807
Should we renamed GNK Defence to just GNK?
As before 1982 the name was rather GNK Sankey, name which is more used on Wikipedia than GNK Defence.
01/01/2025 @ 14:41:57: ChaserX: Mass change model info thread
For all Model Code Change Please [SD] For South Korea
Image:
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles.php?resultsStyle=asImages&sortBy=0&make=Kia&model=- Spectra&modelMatch=1&modelInclModel=on
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles.php?resultsStyle=asImages&sortBy=0&make=Kia&model=- Spectra&modelMatch=1&modelInclModel=on&page=2
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles.php?resultsStyle=asImages&sortBy=0&make=Kia&model=- Spectra&modelMatch=1&modelInclModel=on&page=4
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles.php?resultsStyle=asImages&sortBy=0&make=Kia&model=- Spectra&modelMatch=1&modelInclModel=on&page=5
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles_make-Kia_model-Spectra+Wing.html

List:
https://www.imcdb.org/search.php?resultsStyle=asList&sortBy=0&make=Kia&model=Spe- ctra+Wing
https://www.imcdb.org/search.php?resultsStyle=asList&sortBy=0&make=Kia&model=Spe- ctra&modelMatch=1&modelInclModel=on

Wiki:
https://ko.wikipedia.org/wiki/%EA%B8%B0%EC%95%84_%EC%8A%A4%ED%8E%99%ED%8A%B8%EB%- 9D%BC
https://namu.wiki/w/%EA%B8%B0%EC%95%84%20%EC%8A%A4%ED%8E%99%ED%8A%B8%EB%9D%BC#s-2.2
01/01/2025 @ 18:47:12: antp: Mass change model info thread
Not all should be changed.
SD is just for the 2000-2003, right?
The later ones are these:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kia_Cerato
for which LD is correct.
There are also many 2006 & 2008 made in Russia, are these correct with FB? Or is it also SD? Or is that something else?
https://www.imcdb.org/search.php?resultsStyle=asList&sortBy=0&make=Kia&model=Spe- ctra&modelMatch=1&modelInclModel=on
(2 pages)
03/01/2025 @ 16:43:30: ChaserX: Mass change model info thread
Please Change Vehicle Make For "Asia"
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1903364-Kia-Granbird-1995.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1881480-Kia-Granbird-1995.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1732697-Kia-Granbird-1995.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1671672-Kia-Granbird-1995.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1671583-Kia-Granbird-1995.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1649327-Kia-Granbird-1995.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1954230-Kia-Granbird-1995.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1942040-Kia-Granbird-1995.html

Wiki:
https://namu.wiki/w/%EA%B8%B0%EC%95%84%20%EA%B7%B8%EB%9E%9C%EB%B2%84%EB%93%9C?fr- om=%EC%95%84%EC%8B%9C%EC%95%84%20%EA%B7%B8%EB%9E%9C%EB%B2%84%EB%93%9C#s-2.1
https://ko.wikipedia.org/wiki/%EA%B8%B0%EC%95%84_%EA%B7%B8%EB%9E%9C%EB%B2%84%EB%- 93%9C
04/01/2025 @ 12:05:19: antp: Mass change model info thread
Still a few other 1995:
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1644564-Kia-Granbird-1995.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1644759-Kia-Granbird-1995.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1754797-Kia-Granbird-1995.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1851665-Kia-Granbird-1995.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1861090-Kia-Granbird-1995.html
and a 1998:
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_423834-Kia-Granbird-1998.html
I also change them I suppose?
04/01/2025 @ 18:34:55: JB007: Mass change model info thread
I just found out that the brand "Navistar" had been created.
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles_make-Navistar.html

Two of the vehicles referenced are military vehicles that have also been referenced under the make "International".
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1899332-Navistar-7400-SFA.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1055262-Navistar-MXT-2010.html

Official Make is "Navistar Defense", military branch of Navistar International.
https://www.nddefense.com/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Navistar_Defense_LLC

So we should rename them under the make "International"?
Or if you want to be correct, rename them under the make "Navistar Defense".
These are the vehicles concerned:
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles_make-International_model-MaxxPro.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles_make-International_model-MXT-MVA.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles_make-International_model-MXT-APC.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1899332-Navistar-7400-SFA.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1055262-Navistar-MXT-2010.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles_make-International_model-7000+MV.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_248837-International-7400-MV-2005.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1915304-International-7400-2006.html
05/01/2025 @ 13:10:01: antp: Mass change model info thread
"Navistar Defense" is the company, not the make. On Wikipedia they still refer these as just Navistar like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Navistar_7000_series
And some still as International: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_MaxxPro
Maybe some should be changed then, but maybe not all
05/01/2025 @ 16:42:19: JB007: Mass change model info thread
"Navistar Defense" is the company, not the make. On Wikipedia they still refer these as just Navistar like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Navistar_7000_series
And some still as International: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_MaxxPro
Maybe some should be changed then, but maybe not all

Vehicles for specific markets could be branded "Navistar" and vehicles for the general public could be branded "International".


they still specify: "The International M1224 MaxxPro MRAP (Mine-Resistant Ambush Protected) is an armored fighting vehicle designed by American company Navistar International's subsidiary Navistar Defense".
05/01/2025 @ 16:42:30: JB007: Mass change model info thread
For all "1979+ Renault 5" for Canada market (Made for CDN).
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles.php?resultsStyle=asImages&yearFrom=1979&yearTo=&makeMatch=- 2&make=renault&modelMatch=0&model=5&modelInclModel=on&modelInclChassis=on&mk=&class10=- 10&origin=&madein=&madefor=CDN&role=
Model is "LeCar" and chassis-code is "5".
The changeover from 5 to LeCar in Canada was in 1979:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/263767171214
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/9c/68/2f/9c682f965d3f380afaa09d80936ec725.jpg
05/01/2025 @ 17:44:23: antp: Mass change model info thread

they still specify: "The International M1224 MaxxPro MRAP (Mine-Resistant Ambush Protected) is an armored fighting vehicle designed by American company Navistar International's subsidiary Navistar Defense".


Designed by, but not sold by.
Like we have cars designed by other companies than the company directly linked to their make :wink:
05/01/2025 @ 17:50:30: antp: Mass change model info thread


Indeed that second image is from a Canadian magazine, but have you searched/found more evidence? Was that change consistent/permanent or did they use both names after that?
05/01/2025 @ 21:29:10: JB007: Mass change model info thread

Indeed that second image is from a Canadian magazine, but have you searched/found more evidence? Was that change consistent/permanent or did they use both names after that?

https://www.ebay.fr/itm/166071004935
https://www.flickr.com/photos/autohistorian/41086554442/in/photostream/
06/01/2025 @ 18:55:38: antp: Mass change model info thread
Indeed that article seems to announce its arrival
No commercial documents in French, though?

One conflicting example:
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_209445-Renault-5-1984.html
Is it an older model? Or a newer one with a modified badge?
Or did both 5 & LeCar coexist?

I'm not sure using "5" as chassis code is good, as a few of them have their real chassis code (R122-something)
07/01/2025 @ 20:09:29: JB007: Mass change model info thread
Indeed that article seems to announce its arrival
No commercial documents in French, though?

One conflicting example:
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_209445-Renault-5-1984.html
Is it an older model? Or a newer one with a modified badge?
Or did both 5 & LeCar coexist?

It doesn’t seem so simple, it seems that for a period the names "5" and "LeCar" were conjoined in Canada.
https://www.renault-5.net/usacatalogues.htm

I'm not sure using "5" as chassis code is good, as a few of them have their real chassis code (R122-something)

Yes, I agree.
07/01/2025 @ 20:50:17: JB007: Mass change model info thread
For "Nilsson".
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles_make-Nilsson.html

For all "S80 Ambulans", "S80 Ambulanse", "S80 Begravningsbil", "S80 Bestattungswagen", "S80 Limousine" chassis-code is "TS" and Mk1.
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles_make-Nilsson_model-S80+Ambulans.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles_make-Nilsson_model-S80+Ambulanse.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles_make-Nilsson_model-S80+Begravningsbil.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles_make-Nilsson_model-S80+Limousine.html


Except for there:
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_423486-Nilsson-S80-Begravningsbil.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1551010-Nilsson-S80-Bestattungswagen.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1671208-Nilsson-S80-Limousine-2018.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles_make-Nilsson_model-V70+Ambulanse.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_831383-Nilsson-V70-Ambulans-2007.html
It's Mk2 and not chassis-code.

For there, it's Mk3.
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles_make-Nilsson_model-V70+Hearse.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles_make-Nilsson_model-V70+Bestattungswagen.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles_make-Nilsson_model-V70+Begravningsbil.html

And this:
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1955237.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1824567-Nilsson.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1749810-Nilsson-S80-Ambulans.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1614038-Nilsson-V70-Ambulance.html
11/01/2025 @ 20:37:32: JB007: Mass change model info thread
For all "Lynk & Co 01"
Origin: Sweden
Built in China
Made for EU.
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles_make-Lynk+%26+Co_model-01.html

From AleX_DJ.
"The Lynk & Co. 01, 02 and 03 are Swedish designs. They were developed by CEVT, Geely's European R&D centre based in Gothenburg, which has been operating under the Zeekr brand since 2024. The centre is usually responsible for chassis and software development for Geely, but in the case of the first three Lynk & Co. models it was responsible for the entire car design.

An interview with some of the project's engineers: Link to "newsroom.notified.com""
11/01/2025 @ 22:36:10: 48bux: Mass change model info thread
Can you add "built in Spain" to all Peugeot 207 CC? Thanks in advance :smile:
12/01/2025 @ 09:47:07: antp: Mass change model info thread
Done
12/01/2025 @ 13:00:51: 48bux: Mass change model info thread
Thanks :smile: can you add:
[U64] to all 1995-2003 Citroen Dispatch, Jumpy Serie 1, Peugeot Expert and Expert Combi Série 1
[U65] to all 2004-2006 Série 1 models (including Expert E7)
[G9] to all Série 2 Citroen Dispatch, Dispatch E7, Jumpy, Jumpy Combi, Jumpy Corbillard, Jumpy Multispace and Peugeot Expert, Expert Corbillard, Expert E7, Expert Tepee

Source: https://www.forum-peugeot.com/modeles/codes-vehicules-peugeot-nomenclature/
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