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ingo
A comment about the insolvency of Saab:
http://www.spiegel.de/auto/aktuell/0,1518,608966,00.html
The writer says -as all others, too- that the death of Saab was expected, when GM took it over. The acting of the GM-mother was the main reason.
The translation of the headline means "Assimilated to Death"
http://www.spiegel.de/auto/aktuell/0,1518,608966,00.html
The writer says -as all others, too- that the death of Saab was expected, when GM took it over. The acting of the GM-mother was the main reason.
The translation of the headline means "Assimilated to Death"
ingo
Sounds similar like the survival of "Tempo" in India.
antp
Buick make is more successful in China, so they will at least keep it there.
Neptune
... since the only people who will buy a new Buick are 60+ year olds, and they are dwindlinling in numbers. And this is not just an untrue sterotype either, a few years ago it was released that the median age of the new Buick buyer was 64 years old!
You just contradicted yourself with that answer, seeing as how Buick and Cadillac were in the same boat. That’s exactly why Cadillac started to re-image itself in the first place, as a High Performance Luxury Car brand. Because it was loosing to Mercedes and BMW. The V Series models were going to be its salvation. Cadillac wanted to attract the more youthful wealthy, who are more interested in Lexus, BMW, Audi or Mercedes.
To want the High Performance models to "go-away" is outright silly.
taxiguy
I agree, Cadillac has become too much of a performance brand and not enough of a prestegious luxury brand like it used to be. Their only current offering I approve of is the Deville (or DTS rather I guess) but still that isn't even quite the "classic" Cadillac like a RWD body-on-frame Fleetwood. The STS and CTS are too small and too sporty, and don't even get me started with their other models like Escalde, and SRX...
And by the way CCF, you say that Buick is one of the succesful divisions of GM but it's actually quite the opposite since the only people who will buy a new Buick are 60+ year olds, and they are dwindlinling in numbers. And this is not just an untrue sterotype either, a few years ago it was released that the median age of the new Buick buyer was 64 years old!
And by the way CCF, you say that Buick is one of the succesful divisions of GM but it's actually quite the opposite since the only people who will buy a new Buick are 60+ year olds, and they are dwindlinling in numbers. And this is not just an untrue sterotype either, a few years ago it was released that the median age of the new Buick buyer was 64 years old!
Animatronixx
I pretty much doubt that, along with Buick, Chevrolet and Pontiac Cadillac is one of their best brands, no way they are getting rid of it as easily... we will see others like Saturn disappearing before Cadillac.
I wouldn't be so sure of that... They already discontinued Oldsmobile a couple of years ago, which was the oldest American make still existing back then. Cadillac was already endangered back in the 1990s and we all expected them to close for good. And if you ask me: They should've done it. For me, the last acceptable Cadillac was the 1993-96 Fleetwood and all these awful things they released afterwards (Catera, Escalade, whatever... I've already even been waiting for a Cadillac subcompact, a Cadillac bulldozer or anything worse...) didn't deserve to carry the traditional name Cadillac any more. (Just my point of view)
1902 - 2002 would have been a honorable century to last for such a great make. Better than becoming a caricature of itself, anyway.
coopey
No, Pontiac is not one of those four brands. The fourth is GMC. Actually, GM has shrinked Pontiac range.
CarChasesFanatic
@CCF: so finally it's quite probably, that there will be no Caddies at all any more, not just some tuned up ones.
I pretty much doubt that, along with Buick, Chevrolet and Pontiac Cadillac is one of their best brands, no way they are getting rid of it as easily... we will see others like Saturn disappearing before Cadillac.
coopey
I thought Cadillac was one of the four profitable brands that GM wanted to focus on.
ingo
The conclusion about this whole discussion is finally, that the Europeans and the Australians are trying to save their national GM-brands as a final rescue, because the US-mother is so chance- and helpless ramshackled, that a total collapse is more than likely.
@CCF: so finally it's quite probably, that there will be no Caddies at all any more, not just some tuned up ones.
@CCF: so finally it's quite probably, that there will be no Caddies at all any more, not just some tuned up ones.