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forum_emoticons.html	[quote=robi,67897]Hello, fellow imcdb-community, for many users (myself included) vintage cars are rather difficult to identify and it's also not that easy to find the correct name. A good example for these problems might be Horch vehicles, since there have been many model names (usually three digit numbers), while they are belonging to a certain family of cars. Additionaly, there were many different body styles available, and even more cars were completed by external coachbuilders. The current situation looks like this: Many Horchs are listed either totally wrong (http://imcdb.org/vehicle_392212-Horch-930-V.html), or - in most cases - irregular. I suggest to create a standardized pattern for Horchs, which includes: - Make (Horch, of course) - Model Number (780, 830, 850 etc.) + Bodystyle (Sport Cabriolet, Pullman Limousine etc) - Chassis Code (usually the number of the car's family) In order to avoid a lot of comments on different pages, I will put the links where changes should be done here. Above each link will be the proposed changes. If the whole name has to be changed, I will put it there. I will not include military "Einheits-PKW". Listing the chassis codes will leave many vehicles as "unknown", because most current identifications are based more on speculations and guessing, therefore I will post all possible model numbers on each unknown page. 8 & 12 - Families 1928 Horch 350 Pullman-Limousine [8] http://imcdb.org/vehicle_741823-Horch-16-80-PS-1928.html Horch unknown http://imcdb.org/vehicle_15229-Horch-38-Litre-1939.html http://imcdb.org/vehicle_66159-Horch-38-Litre-1939.html http://imcdb.org/vehicle_703926-Horch-830-BL.html 1931 Horch 480 Cabriolet [8] http://imcdb.org/vehicle_866516-Horch-480-1931.html 1932 Horch 600 Pullman-Limousine [12] http://imcdb.org/vehicle_259702-Horch-600-1931.html 1931 Horch 670 Cabriolet [12] http://imcdb.org/vehicle_425479-Horch-670-1932.html 1932 Horch 720 Cabriolet [8] http://imcdb.org/vehicle_262590-Horch-720.html 1932 Horch 750 Pullman-Limousine [8] http://imcdb.org/vehicle_204177-Horch-750-1932.html http://imcdb.org/vehicle_637032-Horch-750-1933.html 1934 Horch 750 B Tourenwagen [8] http://imcdb.org/vehicle_593839-Horch-750-B-1936.html 1928 Horch 350 Pullman-Limousine [8] http://imcdb.org/vehicle_954823-Horch-8.html [8] http://imcdb.org/vehicle_44591-Horch-780-Cabriolet-1933.html (remove "Werkskabriolet") http://imcdb.org/vehicle_199737-Horch-780-Cabriolet-1933.html http://imcdb.org/vehicle_848573-Horch-780-Cabriolet-1933.html http://imcdb.org/vehicle_38110-Horch-780-Cabriolet-1934.html -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Horch unknown http://imcdb.org/vehicle_243280-Horch-853-Sport-Cabriolet-1937.html http://imcdb.org/vehicle_110682-Horch-930.html http://imcdb.org/vehicle_899495-Horch-930-V.html unknown (not sure if Horch at all) http://imcdb.org/vehicle_466393-Horch-830.html http://imcdb.org/vehicle_277538-Horch-830-B.html http://imcdb.org/vehicle_639121-Horch-830-B.html http://imcdb.org/vehicle_333942-Horch-853.html http://imcdb.org/vehicle_392212-Horch-930-V.html -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 830-Family Horch unknown [830] http://imcdb.org/vehicle_271703-Horch-830.html http://imcdb.org/vehicle_344104-Horch-830.html http://imcdb.org/vehicle_131273-Horch-830.html http://imcdb.org/vehicle_398726-Horch-830.html http://imcdb.org/vehicle_530700-Horch-830.html http://imcdb.org/vehicle_544238-Horch-830.html http://imcdb.org/vehicle_524184-Horch-830-1933.html http://imcdb.org/vehicle_434402-Horch-830-1933.html http://imcdb.org/vehicle_772133-Horch-830-1933.html http://imcdb.org/vehicle_870451-Horch-830-1934.html http://imcdb.org/vehicle_344543-Horch-830-1935.html http://imcdb.org/vehicle_320544-Horch-830-1937.html http://imcdb.org/vehicle_682720-Horch-830-1937.html http://imcdb.org/vehicle_67803-Horch-830-1939.html http://imcdb.org/vehicle_317449-Horch-830-BL.html http://imcdb.org/vehicle_384669-Horch-830-BL.html http://imcdb.org/vehicle_449297-Horch-830-BL.html http://imcdb.org/vehicle_345568-Horch-830-BL-1938.html 1934 Horch 830 R [830] http://imcdb.org/vehicle_466177-Horch-830.html http://imcdb.org/vehicle_144601-Horch-830-R-1934.html http://imcdb.org/vehicle_214142-Horch-830-R-1934.html http://imcdb.org/vehicle_285251-Horch-830-R-1934.html http://imcdb.org/vehicle_466174-Horch-830-R-1934.html http://imcdb.org/vehicle_466321-Horch-830-R-1934.html http://imcdb.org/vehicle_480598-Horch-830-R-1934.html http://imcdb.org/vehicle_954628-Horch-830-R-1934.html 1936 Horch 830 BK Cabriolet [830] http://imcdb.org/vehicle_139260-Horch-830-BK-1936.html http://imcdb.org/vehicle_848677-Horch-830-BK-1936.html http://imcdb.org/vehicle_954597-Horch-830-BK-Cabriolet-1936.html 1935 Horch 830 BL Pullman-Limousine [830] http://imcdb.org/vehicle_623839-Horch-830-BL.html http://imcdb.org/vehicle_795968-Horch-830-BL.html 1935 Horch 830 BL Cabriolet [830] http://imcdb.org/vehicle_191375-Horch-830-BL.html http://imcdb.org/vehicle_333928-Horch-830-BL.html http://imcdb.org/vehicle_354726-Horch-830-BL.html http://imcdb.org/vehicle_702013-Horch-830-BL.html http://imcdb.org/vehicle_680258-Horch-830-BL-1935.html http://imcdb.org/vehicle_758229-Horch-830-BL-1935.html http://imcdb.org/vehicle_204176-Horch-830-BL-Cabriolet-1935.html http://imcdb.org/vehicle_333932-Horch-853.html http://imcdb.org/vehicle_80104-Horch-930-V.html 1937 Horch 830 BL Tourenwagen [830] http://imcdb.org/vehicle_754691-Horch-830-BL-1935.html 1937 Horch 830 BL Pullman-Limousine [830] http://imcdb.org/vehicle_398235-Horch-830-BL-1936.html http://imcdb.org/vehicle_805475-Horch-830-BL-1937.html 1934 Horch 830 Pullman-Limousine [830] http://imcdb.org/vehicle_677504-Horch-830-BL-1936.html 1937 Horch 830 BL Cabriolet [830] http://imcdb.org/vehicle_546010-Horch-830-BL-1936.html http://imcdb.org/vehicle_546027-Horch-830-BL-1936.html http://imcdb.org/vehicle_848751-Horch-830-BL-1936.html http://imcdb.org/vehicle_536848-Horch-830-BL-1938.html 1938 Horch 830 BL Pullman-Limousine [830] http://imcdb.org/vehicle_398241-Horch-830-BL-1938.html http://imcdb.org/vehicle_918088-Horch-830-BL-1938.html 1938 Horch 830 BL Cabriolet [830] http://imcdb.org/vehicle_515971-Horch-830-BL-1938.html http://imcdb.org/vehicle_703929-Horch-830-BL-1938.html 1934 Horch 830 Cabriolet [830] http://imcdb.org/vehicle_864824-Horch-830-Cabriolet-1933.html 1934 Horch 830 Tourenwagen [830] http://imcdb.org/vehicle_954631-Horch-830-Tourenwagen-1933.html 1937 Horch 930 V [830] http://imcdb.org/vehicle_320547-Horch-930-V.html http://imcdb.org/vehicle_320547-Horch-930-V.html 1937 Horch 930 V Cabriolet [830] http://imcdb.org/vehicle_335615-Horch-930-V.html http://imcdb.org/vehicle_178551-Horch-930-V-1937.html http://imcdb.org/vehicle_785581-Horch-930-V-1937.html ----------------------------------------------------------------------- 850-Family Horch unknown [850] http://imcdb.org/vehicle_12802-Horch-850-1936.html http://imcdb.org/vehicle_77759-Horch-850-Cabriolet.html 1935 Horch 853 Sport Cabriolet [850] http://imcdb.org/vehicle_645917-Horch-850-1936.html http://imcdb.org/vehicle_8561-Horch-853.html http://imcdb.org/vehicle_40631-Horch-853.html http://imcdb.org/vehicle_306061-Horch-853.html http://imcdb.org/vehicle_395697-Horch-853.html http://imcdb.org/vehicle_427364-Horch-853.html http://imcdb.org/vehicle_833835-Horch-853.html http://imcdb.org/vehicle_527167-Horch-853-1935.html http://imcdb.org/vehicle_866572-Horch-853-1935.html http://imcdb.org/vehicle_7456-Horch-853-Sport-Cabriolet.html http://imcdb.org/vehicle_385696-Horch-853-Sport-Cabriolet.html http://imcdb.org/vehicle_385696-Horch-853-Sport-Cabriolet.html http://imcdb.org/vehicle_99428-Horch-853-Sport-Cabriolet-1935.html http://imcdb.org/vehicle_400365-Horch-853-Sport-Cabriolet-1935.html http://imcdb.org/vehicle_882990-Horch-853-Sport-Cabriolet-1935.html 1935 Horch 850 Pullman-Limousine [850] http://imcdb.org/vehicle_897657-Horch-850-1937.html http://imcdb.org/vehicle_302731-Horch-850-Pullman-Limousine-1936.html http://imcdb.org/vehicle_525463-Horch-851.html 1935 Horch 850 Pullman-Cabriolet [850] http://imcdb.org/vehicle_515794-Horch-850-Cabriolet-1936.html http://imcdb.org/vehicle_546005-Horch-850-Cabriolet-1936.html http://imcdb.org/vehicle_805481-Horch-850-Pullman-Cabriolet-1936.html 1937 Horch 851 Pullman-Limousine [850] http://imcdb.org/vehicle_199739-Horch-850-Pullman-Limousine-1937.html http://imcdb.org/vehicle_327455-Horch-851-Pullman.html 1937 Horch 853 Sport Cabriolet [850] http://imcdb.org/vehicle_155972-Horch-853-1937.html http://imcdb.org/vehicle_281024-Horch-853-1937.html http://imcdb.org/vehicle_805309-Horch-853-1937.html http://imcdb.org/vehicle_27328-Horch-853-Sport-Cabriolet-1937.html http://imcdb.org/vehicle_164788-Horch-853-Sport-Cabriolet-1937.html http://imcdb.org/vehicle_178927-Horch-853-Sport-Cabriolet-1937.html http://imcdb.org/vehicle_182319-Horch-853-Sport-Cabriolet-1937.html http://imcdb.org/vehicle_232532-Horch-853-Sport-Cabriolet-1937.html http://imcdb.org/vehicle_247578-Horch-853-Sport-Cabriolet-1937.html http://imcdb.org/vehicle_247578-Horch-853-Sport-Cabriolet-1937.html http://imcdb.org/vehicle_349913-Horch-853-Sport-Cabriolet-1937.html http://imcdb.org/vehicle_629118-Horch-853-Sport-Cabriolet-1937.html http://imcdb.org/vehicle_822611-Horch-853-Sport-Cabriolet-1937.html 1938 Horch 853 A Sport Cabriolet [850] http://imcdb.org/vehicle_31558-Horch-853-A-1937.html http://imcdb.org/vehicle_44590-Horch-853-A-1938.html http://imcdb.org/vehicle_97179-Horch-853-A-1938.html http://imcdb.org/vehicle_742454-Horch-853-A-1938.html http://imcdb.org/vehicle_848685-Horch-853-A-1938.html http://imcdb.org/vehicle_860379-Horch-853-A-1938.html 1938 Horch 853 A Sport Cabriolet [850] Voll & Ruhrbeck (extra info) http://imcdb.org/vehicle_629117-Horch-853-A-1938.html 1939 Horch 853 A Sport Cabriolet [850] http://imcdb.org/vehicle_250573-Horch-853-A-1939.html http://imcdb.org/vehicle_465846-Horch-853-A-1939.html http://imcdb.org/vehicle_527382-Horch-853-A-1939.html 1939 Horch 853 A Sport Cabriolet [850] Gläser (extra info) http://imcdb.org/vehicle_434908-Horch-853-A-1939.html 1938 Horch 951 A Pullman-Cabriolet [850] http://imcdb.org/vehicle_215706-Horch-951-A-1937.html http://imcdb.org/vehicle_406395-Horch-951-A-1937.html 1938 Horch 951 A Cabriolet [850] Gläser (extra info) http://imcdb.org/vehicle_435059-Horch-951-A-Sedan-Cabriolet-1937.html 1937 Horch 951 Pullman-Cabriolet [850] Gläser (extra info) http://imcdb.org/vehicle_79226-Horch-951-Pullman-Cabriolet.html[/quote]
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antp

Done, sorry for the long delay.

However for the "unidentified 830", I've just listed them as "Horch [830]"; if they can't be identified more acurately than being from the 830 family I suppose there is no much point listing them as unknown (like the Mercedes W114/115/116/etc. that often can only be identified only by their W-code)

Same for a few "maybe" that I think are better than way than as unknown.

robi