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forum_emoticons.html	[quote=AleX_DJ,85897][url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunton_Technical_Centre]Wikipedia[/url] states that the LCV development is a responsibility of the Dunton Technical Centre (Ford of Britain), together with A- and B-segment cars. Maybe this could sound a bit too generic, as for example we know that the Mk4 and Mk5 Transit were designed in the US, but so far I used to default all the European Ford LCVs as origin UK in my entries. Anyway, there is a confirmation for the Mk3 Transit by [url=https://www.aronline.co.uk/vans/ford-transit/ve6-development-story/]AROnline[/url]: The same site reports some interesting development histories - not only of Ford vehicles - which could be helpful in assigning the correct origin also to post-unification passenger vehicles. - The [b][url=https://www.aronline.co.uk/cars/ford/sierra/toni-development-story/]Sierra[/url][/b] seems to be a mostly German design, as confirmed also by an user in comments who states to have worked at the project in Merkenich - The [b][url=https://www.aronline.co.uk/cars/ford/capri/colt-development-story/]Capri[/url][/b] is a cooperation between the British and German centres, started by the Engineering Team of Dagenham in 1964. The Cologne Design Department joined around in 1966. - The [b][url=https://www.aronline.co.uk/cars/ford/mondeo/ford-mondeo-development-story/#google_vignette]Mondeo MkI[/url][/b] started as a worldwide project (CDW27), with studies made by centres in California, Germany, UK and by Ghia in Italy. For what is to understand from this article, it seems that the first Mondeo is really a cooperation work of all the Ford divisions. Head of the design for the European version was David Price of the Dunton Technical Centre, while the first accepted design proposal came from the Cologne design studio - The [b][url=https://www.aronline.co.uk/cars/ford/granada/ford-granada-development-story/]Granada[/url][/b] is confirmed as being a German design for what regards the Mk2, for the Mk1 they write again about a pan-european design, although it could seem that most of the work was made in the UK - The unified [url=https://www.aronline.co.uk/cars/ford/cortina/the-cars-ford-cortina/]Taunus/Cortina[/url] models seem to be still enough differentiated for what regards the first generation [TC] to gain each of them its own origin flag (UK-Cortina and DE-Taunus), but from this article it seems that from the [TC2] model the most of the design is German made, although it's not specified For other models, an eventual differentiation results for now very difficult. I have read sources throughout the web and books who gave me an overall idea, but nothing 100% sure for now, except maybe for the Ford Ka Mk1, which seems to be an almost entire British design. I would say for now, origins of we could be almost sure could be: - Ford Capri (both generations): pan-European, but started in UK - Ford Cortina MkIII: UK - Ford Escort MkI: UK - Ford Fiesta MkI: totally pan-European - Ford Galaxy MkI: Germany - Ford Granada MkII: Germany - Ford Ka MkI: UK - Ford Mondeo MkI: pan-European, but more specifically, mostly German styled and British engineered - Ford Scorpio MkI/Granada MkIII: Germany - Ford Sierra: Germany - Ford Taunus TC1: Germany - Ford Taunus TC2/Cortina MkIV: Germany - Ford Transit MkIII: UK - Ford Transit MkIV/MkV: USA My guesses for other models, based on informations from the web or books but not sure unless I retrieve and collect them, are: - Ford C-Max (all): Germany - Ford Escort MkII->on: mainly Germany (for MkIV the head of design was Helmuth Schrader of the Metternich Centre) - Ford Focus MkI: UK (head of design: Richard Parry-Jones of Ford Britain) - Ford Focus MkII -> on: Germany - Ford Galaxy MkII/MkIII: Germany - Ford Kuga (both generations): Germany - Ford Mondeo MkIII -> on: Germany - Ford S-Max (all): Germany - Ford Scorpio MkII: Germany For what regards the LCVs, I'd leave for all the UK origin, excluding the Transit Mk4/5 if the US origin is confirmed, and the Transit Connect Mk3, which is a rebadged VW Caddy. Anyway, I'm doing some further researches. I will update this post when I've found other interesting sources[/quote]
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antp

Updated. For the mk4 it was then easier to say "Ford Tourneo MkIV" without specifying the years :wink:

JB007

For "1995-1999 Ford Tourneo MkIII" and this.
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_926079-Ford-Tourneo.html
Origin is "UK".

For "2000-2006 Ford Tourneo MkIV" except this.
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1734429-Ford-Tourneo-2000.html
Origin is "Europe".

https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles_make-Ford_model-Tourneo.html

antp

Maybe an old mk3 quickly repainted for the movie then? We can list it as mk3 by default...

Sandie

I'm wondering if they did something that kept the MK3 going as that looks like late MK3 seats. But the rest isn't really familiar to me from UK market Transit cab chassis.

dsl

I've done something with 1-3 on Sandie's list. No idea about 4, but may be a painted over Ford oval on the tailgate. His comment above copied over.

antp

I would guess that the last one is probably a mk4 or mk5, since it seems rather new. There seem to be many Transit in Turkey so probably a good bet anyway :grin:

Sandie

Tidied what I can, apart from these:
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1726451-Ford-Transit.html (think MK2?)
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_293277-Ford-Transit.html (unsure whether MK1 or MK2)
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_957975-Ford-Transit.html (unsure whether MK1 or MK2)
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1591254-Ford-Transit.html (not even convinced this is a Transit)

antp

I've done some cleaning for the easy ones, but if someone could help identifying (or guessing) the 13 ones without mk/year, that would help :smile:

https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles.php?resultsStyle=asImages&sortBy=0&makeMatch=2&make=- ford&modelMatch=2&model=transit&modelInclModel=on
Same for these 3 first ambulances without mk:
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles.php?resultsStyle=asImages&sortBy=0&make=Ford&model=- Transit+Ambulance&modelMatch=1&modelInclModel=on

antp

dsl

Sorted (I think) - EY02KTL is a Mk4 with several appearances over the years during which strange things happen

Quote From: SM99

No they all the same @dsl, they hacked job the front with a more Modern one. Another example see top comment, https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_774291-Ford-Transit-2001.html

So there are early sightings with Mk4 front, and then it gets the incorrect Mk5 front. As SM99 linked, same seems to have happened with 2001 Transit LF51LHG - see comments in the Silent Witness page he linked - mains on other pages are normal where front is seen.