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Aregument from The Citroen DS page on the Revenge of the Pink Panther:
I really, really hate to bring this up but:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_bestselling_vehicle_nameplates
This is a list of the production numbers of the most best selling cars in world history. Notice, that the Citroen DS placed No. 50, while:
Ford F-Series placed 2nd, with a total of 29,000,000 units sold
Ford Model T placed 5th, with a total of 16,000,000 units sold
Ford Mustang placed 18th, with 8,000,000
The Taurus (which lived for about 19 years, shorter then the DS) took home 19th with 6,700,000 made
Ford Explorer took 124 un just 12 years: 5,500,000
Ford Crown Victoria:30 with 5,000,000 sold
Moral of the story is: Ford's Mustang, Crown Victoria, Taurus, Model T, F-Series and Explorer are more well-known then the DS.
Well-known does not mean that they made lots. And a car made for USA will be more sold than a car made for France... as there are more people to buy it.
Btw if you were reading what I wrote I never said that the DS was more well-known than the Mustang, I just said that it was well-known.
Do not forget also that cars like "Mustang" or "F-Series" include lots of models, as they just kept the same name for the new model. Cf the Golf vs Beetle: 5 car designs for the Golf, 1 for the Beelte.
So as again you post stupid things, that will go on the archive page very soon.
F-Series sold twenty nine million units, so twenty nine million have heard of it. But then, multiply this by 3 (two kids/friend and wife/girlfriend) for people who knew a person with an F-Series or for people who have heard of the F-Series but do not own one.
The Citroen DS sold barely one million cars, but this car was more well known because it was revolutionary. So, you could say we multiply this by say 10> 10,000,000 have heard of the DS.
Any way you cut or slice it, the F-Series is going to be more well know, or at least jsut as well known then the DS just because it sold more. The DS was famous when introduced, and is still famous in Europe. But in North America, about 1/10 will not have heard of "DS", but 9/10 will have heard of "F-150".
Don't say I'm not making sense Antione/Dongington/whoever because it is very clear:
F-Series has been around much, much longer and has sold more (in more places), DS was revolutionary but only sold one million, for just uner 20 years and mostly in Europe.
Also, just because a car isn't famous in Europe, doesn't mean it isn't famous. The Explorer and F-Series are both sold widely outside of Europe. And Antione> You don't have to delete my comments, just because you happen to disagree with them.
As for Leolito's comment, it is impossible for a car enthusiest not to recognize "Mustang". And I'm a car fan, and so is my Dad. I had never heard of Citroen or DS before I joined IMCDb, and my Dad just said "Citroen is a European make. They made some famous car, I don't know what it was."
Donington, whats a Concorde? Isn't it a Chrysler car?
Quote From: Explorer4x4
I really, really hate to bring this up but:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_bestselling_vehicle_nameplates
This is a list of the production numbers of the most best selling cars in world history. Notice, that the Citroen DS placed No. 50, while:
Ford F-Series placed 2nd, with a total of 29,000,000 units sold
Ford Model T placed 5th, with a total of 16,000,000 units sold
Ford Mustang placed 18th, with 8,000,000
The Taurus (which lived for about 19 years, shorter then the DS) took home 19th with 6,700,000 made
Ford Explorer took 124 un just 12 years: 5,500,000
Ford Crown Victoria:30 with 5,000,000 sold
Moral of the story is: Ford's Mustang, Crown Victoria, Taurus, Model T, F-Series and Explorer are more well-known then the DS.
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Well-known does not mean that they made lots. And a car made for USA will be more sold than a car made for France... as there are more people to buy it.
Btw if you were reading what I wrote I never said that the DS was more well-known than the Mustang, I just said that it was well-known.
Do not forget also that cars like "Mustang" or "F-Series" include lots of models, as they just kept the same name for the new model. Cf the Golf vs Beetle: 5 car designs for the Golf, 1 for the Beelte.
So as again you post stupid things, that will go on the archive page very soon.
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uhm ... it is impossible for a car enthusiast not to recognize the "Deese", regardless of how many they made or where the enthusiast in question lives ... even most non-enthusiasts will recognize it ... if that's not "well-known" ... Quote From: Doningtion
They only made a few Concordes, and there have been countless small airbuses made. yet, Concorde is way more famous, because of it's iconic status. Same story here. F-Series sold twenty nine million units, so twenty nine million have heard of it. But then, multiply this by 3 (two kids/friend and wife/girlfriend) for people who knew a person with an F-Series or for people who have heard of the F-Series but do not own one.
The Citroen DS sold barely one million cars, but this car was more well known because it was revolutionary. So, you could say we multiply this by say 10> 10,000,000 have heard of the DS.
Any way you cut or slice it, the F-Series is going to be more well know, or at least jsut as well known then the DS just because it sold more. The DS was famous when introduced, and is still famous in Europe. But in North America, about 1/10 will not have heard of "DS", but 9/10 will have heard of "F-150".
Don't say I'm not making sense Antione/Dongington/whoever because it is very clear:
F-Series has been around much, much longer and has sold more (in more places), DS was revolutionary but only sold one million, for just uner 20 years and mostly in Europe.
Also, just because a car isn't famous in Europe, doesn't mean it isn't famous. The Explorer and F-Series are both sold widely outside of Europe. And Antione> You don't have to delete my comments, just because you happen to disagree with them.
As for Leolito's comment, it is impossible for a car enthusiest not to recognize "Mustang". And I'm a car fan, and so is my Dad. I had never heard of Citroen or DS before I joined IMCDb, and my Dad just said "Citroen is a European make. They made some famous car, I don't know what it was."
Donington, whats a Concorde? Isn't it a Chrysler car?