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I´ve noticed a tendency for some time now to enter internal codes in the modelname field for older vehicles. This is not good, it´s better to keep this field for the commercial name only to make the site consistent.
We always try to find the correct commercial name for vehicles on different markets, the same would go for older cars. Even if they often didn´t have specific modelnames, usually only the actual bodytype was used as modelname, it´s not ok to put an engineering code in it´s place.
It´s about what the original customer would have recognized, not how they were referred to in the service department and later often in car clubs.
Even if the original customer heard about the codes when completing the order with the salesman, it´s not likely that he remembered them for long or used them when telling his friends about the car.
This one could serve as an example:
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_209046-Cadillac-Series-370-A-4702-1931.html
The original customer would most probably have told his friends about his Cadillac V12 Fleetwood Roadster and nothing about Series 370A or bodystyle 4702.
So please keep these things apart, Make and Model fields are for Commercial names of the vehicles. Codes would go into the Chassis field, or just be mentioned in comments.
A problem is that for some cars there are several different codes available, but we only have one field, for Chassis. Bodycodes/stylenumbers can of course be entered.
A bodycode field would be useful aswell, but for now we don´t have that so we need to make a choice here. A suggestion is to use the code that would be common for most cars, often the chassiscode, so we can click on that to easily compare with other similar cars.
It´s useful when entering cars in the database to easily crosscheck against already entered cars, is it right or should it have another code?
A current sample with many entries of codes in the namefield is this: http://www.imcdb.org/movie_68149-The-Waltons.html
Cadillac and LaSalle entered with a Series code, Chryslers called CD Eight and Lincolns called Model L.
Some samples from original period publishings:
1930 Cadillac:
http://www.lov2xlr8.no/brochures/cadillac/30caddy.html
1931 LaSalle:
http://www.lov2xlr8.no/brochures/cadillac/31la/bilder/1.jpg
1930 Lincoln:
http://www.lov2xlr8.no/brochures/lincoln/30li/bilder/1.jpg
1931 Chrysler:
http://www.lov2xlr8.no/brochures/mopar/31chr/bilder/3.jpg
Good sources for original commercial material are these:
http://www.lov2xlr8.no/
http://www.oldcarmanualproject.com/
It´s often difficult to makes sense of given information when browsing the net or reading encyclopedias over cars since the authors often are careless in the use of codes and names of the cars.
Most cars were originally referred to either by the the engine: Six,Eight, Twelve, V8-12-16 or by the body: Touring Car, Coupe or whatever it was.
So if you come across "Series", "Model", "Typ" or some code, be suspicious. It probably does not belong in the Model field of our database.
We always try to find the correct commercial name for vehicles on different markets, the same would go for older cars. Even if they often didn´t have specific modelnames, usually only the actual bodytype was used as modelname, it´s not ok to put an engineering code in it´s place.
It´s about what the original customer would have recognized, not how they were referred to in the service department and later often in car clubs.
Even if the original customer heard about the codes when completing the order with the salesman, it´s not likely that he remembered them for long or used them when telling his friends about the car.
This one could serve as an example:
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_209046-Cadillac-Series-370-A-4702-1931.html
The original customer would most probably have told his friends about his Cadillac V12 Fleetwood Roadster and nothing about Series 370A or bodystyle 4702.
So please keep these things apart, Make and Model fields are for Commercial names of the vehicles. Codes would go into the Chassis field, or just be mentioned in comments.
A problem is that for some cars there are several different codes available, but we only have one field, for Chassis. Bodycodes/stylenumbers can of course be entered.
A bodycode field would be useful aswell, but for now we don´t have that so we need to make a choice here. A suggestion is to use the code that would be common for most cars, often the chassiscode, so we can click on that to easily compare with other similar cars.
It´s useful when entering cars in the database to easily crosscheck against already entered cars, is it right or should it have another code?
A current sample with many entries of codes in the namefield is this: http://www.imcdb.org/movie_68149-The-Waltons.html
Cadillac and LaSalle entered with a Series code, Chryslers called CD Eight and Lincolns called Model L.
Some samples from original period publishings:
1930 Cadillac:
http://www.lov2xlr8.no/brochures/cadillac/30caddy.html
1931 LaSalle:
http://www.lov2xlr8.no/brochures/cadillac/31la/bilder/1.jpg
1930 Lincoln:
http://www.lov2xlr8.no/brochures/lincoln/30li/bilder/1.jpg
1931 Chrysler:
http://www.lov2xlr8.no/brochures/mopar/31chr/bilder/3.jpg
Good sources for original commercial material are these:
http://www.lov2xlr8.no/
http://www.oldcarmanualproject.com/
It´s often difficult to makes sense of given information when browsing the net or reading encyclopedias over cars since the authors often are careless in the use of codes and names of the cars.
Most cars were originally referred to either by the the engine: Six,Eight, Twelve, V8-12-16 or by the body: Touring Car, Coupe or whatever it was.
So if you come across "Series", "Model", "Typ" or some code, be suspicious. It probably does not belong in the Model field of our database.