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Sandie
In the absence of a reply from anyone else, I will sum up the deletion situation.
Basically, it was deleted as three admins (antp, chicomarx and G-Mann) somewhat vociferously felt that it was not worth listing. Lateef disagreed because some of the cars were rare then backed down in a flip-flop almost of Romney proportions. A couple of other people spoke out in favour of it too, raising the same points that they usually do in such borderline cases. For these people, the problem is more with the guidelines rather than the case of the show.
All that was going to happen was that the argument was going to rage on for ages before it died out and the page was left forever unvalidated as people continually shied away from making a decision. It is probably my fault (and honestly I was neither for nor against listing it) that it got deleted as I raised exactly this point on that page. Basically, that if some people felt that it should have been deleted so strongly, and they had the power to actually delete it then why didn't they do that rather than just complaining about it, leading to indecision and a fucking tedious argument?
I accept your first point and don't think that anyone would disagree with that, but I don't think that makes it any more or less worth listing. For the second point, these days car/truck shows only seem to get listed if they are very well known like Top Gear, IRT and Fifth Gear are to an extent or they have something else of interest. This show is not really that. For instance, we've had a lot of other less well known car shows which have not been validated, though there are a few that slipped through the net before this rule change or for other reasons (for instance, I think things such as Auto Esporte were listed as a lot of the latin American cars listed there are rare on the base).
That is the situation as I understand it in relation to the rules, and not necessarily my actual personal view.
Basically, it was deleted as three admins (antp, chicomarx and G-Mann) somewhat vociferously felt that it was not worth listing. Lateef disagreed because some of the cars were rare then backed down in a flip-flop almost of Romney proportions. A couple of other people spoke out in favour of it too, raising the same points that they usually do in such borderline cases. For these people, the problem is more with the guidelines rather than the case of the show.
All that was going to happen was that the argument was going to rage on for ages before it died out and the page was left forever unvalidated as people continually shied away from making a decision. It is probably my fault (and honestly I was neither for nor against listing it) that it got deleted as I raised exactly this point on that page. Basically, that if some people felt that it should have been deleted so strongly, and they had the power to actually delete it then why didn't they do that rather than just complaining about it, leading to indecision and a fucking tedious argument?
I accept your first point and don't think that anyone would disagree with that, but I don't think that makes it any more or less worth listing. For the second point, these days car/truck shows only seem to get listed if they are very well known like Top Gear, IRT and Fifth Gear are to an extent or they have something else of interest. This show is not really that. For instance, we've had a lot of other less well known car shows which have not been validated, though there are a few that slipped through the net before this rule change or for other reasons (for instance, I think things such as Auto Esporte were listed as a lot of the latin American cars listed there are rare on the base).
That is the situation as I understand it in relation to the rules, and not necessarily my actual personal view.