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forum_emoticons.html	[quote=Harold B,90181]Since I used the Chi-Ha as the example, I'll lay out all of my 'issues' with them here if you would like to correct them. Type 97 Chi-Ha replicas which are built on the chassis of the GAZ SU-76M, currently under various different categories: https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_468490-Made-for-Movie-Mitsubishi-Type-97-Chi-Ha.html https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1836168-Made-for-Movie-Type-97-Chi-Ha.html https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1659413-Made-for-Movie-Type-97-Chi-Ha.html https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_209804-GAZ-SU-76-M.html https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_209809-GAZ-SU-76-M.html https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_857087-GAZ-SU-76-M.html Perhaps when there's a lot of them like with these they should have their own category? "GAZ SU-76M as Mitsubishi Type 97 Chi-Ha"? Type 97 Chi-Ha replicas which are built on the chassis of the GKN Defence FV 432: https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1444402-Made-for-Movie-Type-97-Chi-Ha.html https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1444391-Mitsubishi-Type-97-Chi-Ha-Kai-Replica-1938.html Others: https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_620088-Mitsubishi-Type-97-Chi-Ha.html - This one I'm pretty sure is meant to be a Mitsubishi Type 2 Ho-I. That was an infantry support tank that used the hull of the Chi-He (the tank that replaced the Chi-Ha, which had squared up frontal armor and a rectangular rear hull, which this replica does) with an enlarged turret. https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1529335-Mitsubishi-Type-97-Chi-Ha-1937.html - This is an animated Type 95 Ha-Go, not a Chi-Ha. There were two versions of the real life Chi-Ha, the early one with a small turret and the later one with a large turret. The later model is normally called Chi-Ha Kai nowadays, "Kai" meaning "improved". "ShinHoTo" used to be more common in Western sources. That means "new turret" transliterated from Japanese. It fell out of favor at least partly because it can be written several different ways, and is more of a slang/informal term. The large turret models are already listed separately under "Mitsubishi Type 97 ShinHoTo Chi-Ha", except for this one which is listed with the normal small turret models: https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_422175-Mitsubishi-Type-97-Chi-Ha.html I would prefer if you would move that one plus the ones under "ShinHoTo Chi-Ha" to "Mitsubishi Type 97 Chi-Ha Kai". That would be more correct, and then they will appear under the normal Chi-Ha category as well.[/quote]
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antp

Updated, thanks

Harold B

Thanks for resetting my account antp, I got back in now. I just hope that doesn't happpen again.

I went over everything and it all looks good. There are only a couple of things, mostly stuff that was overlooked or was my mistake.

The M4A3E4s are missing the name Sherman
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles.php?make=Fisher&model=M4+A3+E4&modelMatch=1&modelInclModel=- on

'HVSS' can be removed from the additional info here, since now it's in the name
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1938431-Pressed-Steel-M4-A1--Sherman-.html

Remove "75(W)" from the additional info. Ford didn't make wet ammo stowage Shermans. That's what the W signifies.
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_183392-Fisher-M4-A3--Sherman--1944.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_115044-Fisher-M4-A3--Sherman--1944.html

"Modified" can be removed from the additional info
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_286535-Fisher-M4-A2--Sherman-.html

This is a real, Chrysler M4A3 (76)W HVSS Sherman. I must have put in under the made for movie ones by mistake.
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_575377-Pressed-Steel-M4-A1--Sherman--1942.html

The four Sherman IC Firefly's should have "Hybrid" added as additional info, as they have the composite half-cast half-welded hull, which not all of them had.
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles_make-Chrysler_model-M4+Sherman+IC+27.html

These M4A1s can be identified as Montreal Locomotive Works Grizzly's because of the particular tracks and drive sprockets they used. So they go here https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles_make-Montreal+Locomotive_model-M4.html
All Grizzlys were made in 1943
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_56767-Pressed-Steel-M4-A1-Sherman.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_595019-Pressed-Steel-M4-A1-Sherman.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_355219-Pressed-Steel-M4-A1-Sherman.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_549388-Pressed-Steel-M4-A1-Sherman-1942.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1792491-Pressed-Steel-M4-A1-Sherman-1942.html

Jnglmpera

@Harold_B

I posted a response to your comment/question in Baka-tan, can you check it out please?
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1663828-Studebaker-M-29--Weasel-.html

antp

Thanks for your help :smile:

I still have to do some cleanup by removing unnecessary spaces and quotes on some models

Harold B

Quote From: antp

For https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles.php?make=Pressed+Steel&model=M51+%27Super+Sherman- %27&modelMatch=1&modelInclModel=on is it M-50 or M-51 then?

M-51. Sorry, it's kinda hard to keep everything straight when you're thinking about so many things at once. The M-50 is a related version, but all of those are M-51s.

Yes I did make a few corrections and additions after you started on it, mostly because Mike pointed out I made a mistake with a couple of the A2/A3s. I'll check everything again later to make sure nothing got missed.

I'm just glad it's done now though. Reorganizing the Shermans was probably the biggest task out of all the tanks. Now that there's no longer any glaringly obvious errors, I'll try asking a few people I know if they can further ID some of them. Like specifically, to see if there are any Grizzly's in among the normal M4A1s. The Grizzly was the Canadian-produced version. I don't know what to look for on those specifically, but else someone might.

antp

For https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles.php?make=Pressed+Steel&model=M51+%27Super+Sherman- %27&modelMatch=1&modelInclModel=on is it M-50 or M-51 then?

antp

Possible that by going back and forth at some moment I took a part of the first post instead of the second? Or I may have missed one or two blocks, I'll check.
Haven't you added some after I processed them? (last edit is 06/11 but I processed all that on 05/11)

Harold B

Were you still working on the list of Shermans? I noticed you updated a lot of them but also missed a lot, so you may have been looking at the wrong post and not the updated one.

antp

For the "Made for Movie" tanks, often we were not including the make in the model like what was done for other kinds of vehicles, because for real ones that make was added just because we needed one, as the tanks did not really had a make.

antp

Quote From: Harold B

but the forum wouldn't let me edit it, probably because it's too old

Indeed, I think posts can't be modified after some time on the forum.

Quote From: Harold B

"Pressed Steel" as a manufacturer should be "Pressed Steel Car". Pressed Steel Car Company was the company that made M4A1 Shermans https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pressed_Steel_Car_Company Pressed Steel Company was an unrelated British company https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pressed_Steel_Company

In a way it sounds strange to have the "Car" part without the "Company", maybe the name "Pressed Steel" was used as a shorter name, as there is no really "make" name for these tanks?
Otherwise I can change it and redirect the old name to the new one, like for the "s" added to Vickers Armstrongs.