I found the Made for Movie category recently, and I went through it to see what I could identify. I came away from that confused, because it seems to me that there isn't much of a rhyme or reason when a prop/replica/CGI vehicle gets stuck in Made for Movie versus being treated like it's a real vehicle. Animated vehicles are always treated as though they are real, but they can sometimes be even less accurate to the real thing than a replica/CGI model is.

There are some instances on the site where a prop/replica vehicle is put under the category of the real vehicle it is meant to imitate, while other times those prop vehicles are put under Made for Movie.

There are some instances where a real vehicle is dressed up as another vehicle, and sometimes it is put under the category of the vehicle that it really is, other times under the category of the vehicle it's dressed up as, and other times under Made for Movie.
Example:
SU-76M as fake Chi-Ha - under SU-76M https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_857087-GAZ-SU-76-M.html
FV432* as fake Chi-Ha - under Chi-Ha Replica https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1444391-Mitsubishi-Type-97-Chi-Ha-Kai-Replica-1938.html
SU-76M as fake Chi-Ha - under Made for Movie https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1659413-Made-for-Movie-Type-97-Chi-Ha.html

This happens particularly a lot with tanks, or at least that's where I've noticed it since that is what my interest is in. It would seem logical that all props/replicas (at least the ones which cannot be identified as based on a real vehicle) should go under Made for Movie, since they were not manufactured by the real manufacturer; their manufacturer is "movie". But if that were to be the case, then most German and Japanese tanks that aren't from stock footage would need to be moved, because they're all replicas.

Further, when a prop vehicle can be positively identified, should it be treated as the vehicle it is underneath, or should it be treated as the vehicle it is trying to imitate? In my opinion it should be listed as the vehicle it really is with the vehicle it's pretending to be listed as additional info.
For example, there's a large amount of Chieftain tanks which are dressed up as M1 Abrams (actually it's probably all the same vehicle, but it's used in a ton of movies) https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles.php?make=Made+for+Movie&model=M1+27&model
I think, personally, that these should be listed under Chieftain rather than Made for Movie.

Please advise what should go where. If a thread is needed to identify what are props and what are costumed vehicles, so they can be moved to the correct category, I would contribute to that. Maybe people who aren't as familiar with tanks as I am aren't able to spot them, but they stick out like a sore thumb to me.

Originally the rule was to use "Made for Movie" for bad replicas, and the intended make for good replicas.

For a vehicle A modified to look like a vehicle B, we can list either as "A as B" or "B on A", I would say that it depends on which one it looks like the most.

In the movie world, a lot of replicas are used, so having them listed under their intended make rather than the generic "Made for Movie" is often better I think. Otherwise any CGI/drawn vehicle would technically be "Made for Movie"

There are probably some cases to update to match the "rules" I mentioned, for example those you mentioned in your comment. As I do not know much about tanks, I don't know in which category each belongs.

Since I used the Chi-Ha as the example, I'll lay out all of my 'issues' with them here if you would like to correct them.

Type 97 Chi-Ha replicas which are built on the chassis of the GAZ SU-76M, currently under various different categories:
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_468490-Made-for-Movie-Mitsubishi-Type-97-Chi-Ha.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1836168-Made-for-Movie-Type-97-Chi-Ha.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1659413-Made-for-Movie-Type-97-Chi-Ha.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_209804-GAZ-SU-76-M.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_209809-GAZ-SU-76-M.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_857087-GAZ-SU-76-M.html
Perhaps when there's a lot of them like with these they should have their own category? "GAZ SU-76M as Mitsubishi Type 97 Chi-Ha"?

Type 97 Chi-Ha replicas which are built on the chassis of the GKN Defence FV 432:
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1444402-Made-for-Movie-Type-97-Chi-Ha.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1444391-Mitsubishi-Type-97-Chi-Ha-Kai-Replica-1938.html

Others:
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_620088-Mitsubishi-Type-97-Chi-Ha.html - This one I'm pretty sure is meant to be a Mitsubishi Type 2 Ho-I. That was an infantry support tank that used the hull of the Chi-He (the tank that replaced the Chi-Ha, which had squared up frontal armor and a rectangular rear hull, which this replica does) with an enlarged turret.
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1529335-Mitsubishi-Type-97-Chi-Ha-1937.html - This is an animated Type 95 Ha-Go, not a Chi-Ha.


There were two versions of the real life Chi-Ha, the early one with a small turret and the later one with a large turret. The later model is normally called Chi-Ha Kai nowadays, "Kai" meaning "improved". "ShinHoTo" used to be more common in Western sources. That means "new turret" transliterated from Japanese. It fell out of favor at least partly because it can be written several different ways, and is more of a slang/informal term.

The large turret models are already listed separately under "Mitsubishi Type 97 ShinHoTo Chi-Ha", except for this one which is listed with the normal small turret models:
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_422175-Mitsubishi-Type-97-Chi-Ha.html

I would prefer if you would move that one plus the ones under "ShinHoTo Chi-Ha" to "Mitsubishi Type 97 Chi-Ha Kai". That would be more correct, and then they will appear under the normal Chi-Ha category as well.

Well that's a little long if it is supposed to replace the make. Currently there are the following fields:
Make (where we put Mitsubishi, GAZ or "Made for Movie")
Model
Extra info (the part that is displayed in italics on the vehicle detail page, but not visible in the thumbnails listings)

I'll check that in the next days, in case someone else has input about that.

I thought about it more. How about "[X vehicle] as Replica" as the model, and then put whatever it's meant to replicate as the additional info. So in this case it would be GAZ / SU-76M as Replica / Type 97 Chi-Ha.
That way would work better since it would include all potential replicas built on that chassis. Like the FV432 or AT-P tractor, which were used to make many different types of replica tanks, some not even recognizable as anything specific other than generic "tank".

Well then you do not find easily the vehicle it is supposed to replicate
Sometimes the chassis on which it is made is not very interesting for public, compared to what it is supposed to look like.

I guess. If you want to put them all in "Made for Movie" under what they're supposed to be that works too. It's your website so you decide. I'm only saying what I would do.


I had a look through the Ha-Go's...

International Harvester M5 High-Speed Tractor as Replica Type 95 Ha-Go
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_380121-Made-for-Movie-Type-95-Ha-Go.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_226159-Mitsubishi-Type-95-Ha-Go.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_226161-Mitsubishi-Type-95-Ha-Go.html

Misidentified, this is a Hino Type 97 Te-Ke
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_247198-Mitsubishi-Type-95-Ha-Go.html

Misidentified, this is a Mitsubishi Type 89 I-Go, called Type 89 Chi-Ro on this site (Not trying to get off topic but, essentially: Tanks built by Japan are ordered after the Iroha, a poem that organizes the Japanese language like an alphabet. The first three tanks were called I-Go, Ro-Go, and Ha-Go. They changed the naming scheme after this and the I-Go retroactively became the Chi-Ro, but no one calls it that, everyone still called it I-Go. So it being listed as Chi-Ro is not wrong per se, but it's weird.)
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles_make-Mitsubishi_model-Type+89+Chi-Ro.html

Misidentified, this is Ishikawajima Type 92 Heavy Armored Car (model code TB)
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1540623-Mitsubishi-Type-95-Ha-Go-1935.html

Made for Movie Type 95 Ha-Go
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_305496-Mitsubishi-Type-95-Ha-Go-Replica.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1508437-Mitsubishi-Type-95-Ha-Go-Replica.html

I would like to use this thread (or another thread if you prefer) as a place to organize these correction lists for different models of tank as I work through them.
I will stop for now though

For cases like that, it is good to leave a comment on the site, so we know why it is named that way (i.e. depending on who identified it, we know if the info was reliable or not if someone else provides a conflicting identification).



Aren't they good enough to be listed as Replicas?

I still have the links in previous post the check, I don't forget them

I updated the vehicles in the links posted in earlier messages here above



Indeed, it is better to use the original model than "Made for Movie", which should be used only in last resort (unknown base or really bad replicas).
The debatable case is for good replicas: original model or intended model. That can be also chosen case by case.

For these Chieftains you mention (the forum messes up with parenthesis and quotes in URLs), I updated https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=1897619
Is it correctly listed now?
There are probably still others to update the same way among these then: https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles.php?resultsStyle=asImages&sortBy=0&make=Made+for+- Movie&model=M1&modelMatch=1&modelInclModel=on

Thank you.
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_620088-Mitsubishi-Type-97-Chi-Ha.html This is a made for movie though, there are no real ones left
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1529335-Mitsubishi-Type-97-Chi-Ha-1937.html and you made a typo here, should be Type 95 not 97

"The debatable case is for good replicas: original model or intended model. That can be also chosen case by case."
I have no problem considering those two Ha-Gos as replicas. If I didn't know better I would believed they were real. The problem is where to draw the line on what is good enough? What is convincing to one person may not be to another.

Another correction here, should be "Type 94 TK". Te-Ke was the Type 97. TK was an abbreviation of its purpose, rather than a name. I actually think "Te-Ke" being the following model was kind of a joke in that regard, or a play on words.
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles.php?make=Mitsubishi&model=Type+94+Te-Ke&modelMatch=1&modelInclModel=on

Here is the list of fake M1's which I picked out as being based on Chieftains:
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_709663-Made-for-Movie-M1--Abrams-.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_807506-Made-for-Movie-M1--Abrams-.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1246906-Made-for-Movie-M1--Abrams-.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1250135-Made-for-Movie-M1--Abrams-.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1263376-Made-for-Movie-M1--Abrams-.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1265609-Made-for-Movie-M1--Abrams-.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1733364-Made-For-Movie-M1--Abrams-.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_829946-Made-for-Movie-M1A2--Abrams-.html

https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1183419-Ishikawajima-Sumida-M2593.html - Chiyoda Type 91 So-Mo [model code: QSW]

https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_186884-Chiyoda-Armoured-Car.html - This was identified as a So-Mo (using the wrong name, but I know what was meant), but it isn't, and I'm not certain what it is. The closest match is the Chiyoda Type 92. It could be the poor photo quality and strange lighting that is making it look weird. I would put it as Type 92 but I will continue to look and let you know if I come up with something better.

Related to this topic is the only other Sumida vehicle on this site, this Sumida Type M bus. https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_498935-Ishikawajima-Sumida-1929.html It's listed under Ishikawajima. As I explained in the thread I made about the armored cars, Sumida was a marque of Ishikawajima, as Chiyoda was a marque of TGE. So since Chiyoda is listed as its own manufacturer, Sumida should be too.

Type 92 or 93? (as you wrote 93 on the site)

Thanks for the other links, I updated them

Chiyoda Type 92. In my comment I was saying the Ishikawajima Type 93 (no real ones of those on the site, yet) has a low-slung body like the one in the picture, but it's definitely not a Type 93 because it doesn't have the roller behind the front tires.

I will make a list for you of my corrections from when I went through the made for movie section as soon as I have time.

I noticed there are two different vehicles listed under Mitsubishi Type 73, there's these ones, the Type 73 Armored Personnel Carrier, and the rest are the Type 73 Light Truck. I would recommend changing the names of these four to "Type 73 APC".
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_707793-Mitsubishi-Type-73.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1099168-Mitsubishi-Type-73.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1302636-Mitsubishi-Type-73.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1864020-Mitsubishi-Type-73.html

https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1905170-Mitsubishi-Type-74.html - This isn't a Type 74. The Type 74 has a smooth, rounded turret and gun mantlet; this has an angular turret. It's just a generic tank.

https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_219415-Mitsubishi-Type-74.html - Type 61 not Type 74

The Type 74 had different upgrades throughout its life, called Type 74B, 74C, and so on, ending with Type 74G. Only some of them like the D and G are easy to identify because of external differences. For the D onward that is a thermal sleeve on the cannon barrel, and for the G that is sideskirts.

Type 74D (or E, but there's no external difference between the two)
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_218045-Mitsubishi-Type-74.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_218103-Mitsubishi-Type-74.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_722579-Mitsubishi-Type-74.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_873513-Mitsubishi-Type-74.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1073894-Mitsubishi-Type-74.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1249645-Mitsubishi-Type-74.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1866179-Mitsubishi-Type-74.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1521059-Mitsubishi-Type-74-1974.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1704175-Mitsubishi-Type-74-1974.html

Type 74G
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_975301-Mitsubishi-Type-74.html

https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_218044-Mitsubishi-Type-78.html - Misidentified, Komatsu Type 75 MLRS (Multiple-Launch Rocket System). The Mitsubishi one is the Type 75 SPH (Self-Propelled Howitzer).

https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1453090-Mitsubishi-Type-90.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1919735-Mitsubishi-Type-90.html
Misidentified, these are M1 Abrams

https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_583757-Nihon-Nainenki-Type-95-1937.html - This Kurogane Type 95 is listed under "Nihon Nainenki" (日本 内燃機) which was Kurogane's parent company. The rest of them are listed under Kurogane, so this one should be too https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles.php?make=Kurogane&model=Type+95& This one is specifically the pickup truck version. The rest are the staff car version.

These two vehicles are the same thing. They should be called "TGE Type 92A Ni-Ku", as opposed to the other artillery tractor introduced in the same year, the Type 92B I-Ke.
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_377454-TGE-Type-92-1932.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_373166-TGE-Type-92-Ko-1932.html

There are Type 82s listed under Mitsubishi, Komatsu, and Isuzu. Mitsubishi designed it but Komatsu built them. I don't think Isuzu even had anything to do with it.
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles.php?make=Mitsubishi&model=Type+82&
https://imcdb.org/vehicles.php?make=Komatsu&model=Type+82&
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles_make-Isuzu_model-Type+82.html

https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1763296-Isuzu-Type-73-Truck-SKW-440-1973.html - This Isuzu Type 73 is listed separately by mistake. It is "Type 73 Truck" while the rest are only "Type 73".

These are Isuzu Type 97s. The TX40 was an earlier design. I'm not entirely sure what the model code of the Type 97 was, if it had one. Isuzu may have considered it a TX, just the military version of it, but the design of the Type 97 is closer to the TX60 and TX80 than it is to the TX40.
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles.php?make=Isuzu&model=TX+40

The Isuzu Type 94's model code was TU10
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles_make-Isuzu_model-Type+94.html

After these I am happy with the Japanese vehicles. There is nothing else I can find wrong, for now at least.

Made for Movie Tank (generic)
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_687673-Made-for-Movie-Churchill.html

Made for Movie Pz.Kpfw.III
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1280429-Made-for-Movie-PzKpfwIV.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1384476-Made-for-Movie-PzKpfwIV.html

Made for Movie Pz.Kpfw.IV
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1262083-Made-for-Movie.html

Made for Movie Daimler Sturmpanzerwagen A7V
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1896674-Made-For-Movie.html

Made for Movie Ehrhardt E-V/4
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1906016-Made-for-Movie.html

Made for Movie KhPZ BT-5
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1204948-Made-for-Movie.html

Made for Movie Rock Island Arsenal M1 Combat Car (for these sort of American vehicles, "Combat Car" has to be part of the name, because there is also an M1 Light Tank, M1 Medium Tank, M1 Wrecker, M1 Scout Car, and so on ad nauseum)
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_294883-Made-for-Movie.html

Made for Movie M4A1 Sherman (could also be T-34 as M4A1, but I'm not certain there's an entire T-34 under there, it may just be parts.)
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_88805-Made-for-Movie.html
Made for Movie M4A3 Sherman
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_25396-Made-for-Movie.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1214863-Made-for-Movie.html

Made for Movie M26 Pershing (Please set model as M26 Pershing, rather than additional info)
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_255809-Made-for-Movie.html

Made for Movie M41 Walker-Bulldog
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_356748-Made-for-Movie.html

Made for Movie Toyota (remove KC, because it isn't one)
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_201095-Made-for-Movie-Toyota-KC.html

Made for Movie Type 87 Vickers-Crossley Armoured Car
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_451696-Made-for-Movie-Crossley-Armored-Car.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_209808-Made-for-Movie.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_463904-Made-for-Movie.html

Made for Movie Austin Armoured Car
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1109944-Made-for-Movie.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1625636-Made-For-Movie.html

Made for Movie Austin-Putilov Kégresse
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1442897-Made-for-Movie.html

Made for Movie Nuffield A.15 Crusader
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_13789-Made-for-Movie.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1204543-Made-for-Movie-Crusader.html

Made for Movie Komatsu Type 75 MLRS
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_219699-Made-for-Movie.html

Made for Movie Krauss-Maffei Leopard 1
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_446739-Made-for-Movie.html

Made for Movie Schneider Citroën-Kégresse P16
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_679931-Made-for-Movie.html

Made for Movie Tiznao
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1124634-Made-for-Movie.html

Norinco GJT211 as Mitsubishi Type 98 Ro-Ke (I had to ask for help for that one. It's a bulldozer version of the Type 62 tank, I never heard of it before.)
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1576412-Made-for-Movie-Type-98.html

MRI AT-P as KhPZ BT-5
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1518277-Made-for-Movie-BT-5.html
MRI AT-P as BMM Pz.Kpfw.38(t)
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1580150-Made-for-Movie-PzKpfw3829.html
MRI AT-P as GAZ T-80
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1916392-Made-for-Movie.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1917184-Made-for-Movie.html

KhTZ MT-LB as FMC M113
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_897527-Made-for-Movie-FMC-M113.html
KhTZ MT-LB as T-34-85
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_380771-Made-for-Movie-T-34-85.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1019608-Made-for-Movie-T-34-85.html

Kurganmashzavod BMP-1 as Chrysler M3 Lee
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_555277-Made-for-Movie-M3--Lee-.html
Kurganmashzavod BMP-1 as Daimler-Benz Pz.Kpfw.III
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_305186-Made-for-Movie-PzKpfwIII.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_379485-Made-for-Movie-PzKpfwIII.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1011242-Made-for-Movie-PzKpfwIII.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1385808-Made-for-Movie-PzKpfwIII.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1912323-Made-for-Movie-PzKpfwIII.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1912931-Made-for-Movie-PzKpfwIII.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1913290-Made-for-Movie-PzKpfwIII.html

(KhPZ) T-34/76 as KhPZ A-34 (real one, not MfM)
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1269197-Made-for-Movie-T-34-76.html

T-34-85 (I think they default to Uralvagonzavod?) as Henschel Pz.Kpfw.VI Tiger Ausf.H1
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_57369-Made-for-Movie-PzKpfwVI--Tiger-.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_177964-Made-for-Movie-PzKpfwVI--Tiger-.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_970443-Made-for-Movie-PzKpfwVI--Tiger-.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1167379-Made-for-Movie-PzKpfwVI--Tiger-.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1402568-Made-for-Movie-PzKpfwVI--Tiger-.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1829699-Made-for-Movie-PzKpfwVI--Tiger-.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1858481-Made-for-Movie-PzKpfwVI--Tiger-.html
T-34-85 as Krupp Pz.Kpfw.IV (I think that's what they're going for. It has the same turret Schürzen as the real Panzer IV in front.)
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1322364-Made-for-Movie-PzKpfwVI--Tiger-.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1715185-Made-for-Movie.html (I think these are the same tanks)
T-34-85 as German Tank (generic)
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_168462-Made-for-Movie.html

KhPZ T-44M as Krupp Pz.Kpfw.IV (The T-44M was an upgraded version that used the tracks, roadwheels, and drive sprocket from the T-54. They made a few of these fake Panzer IVs https://www.reddit.com/r/TankPorn/comments/184k4dn/how_to_quickly_disguise_your_- t44m/)
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_804013-Made-for-Movie-PzKpfwIV.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1262307-Made-for-Movie-PzKpfwIV.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1920029-Made-for-Movie-PzKpfwIV.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1528173-Made-for-Movie-PzKpfwIV-AusfH.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1829700-Made-for-Movie-PzKpfwIV-AusfH.html
KhPZ T-44M as Henschel Pz.Kpfw.VI Tiger
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_237797-Made-for-Movie-PzKpfwVI--Tiger-.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_375647-Made-for-Movie-PzKpfwVI--Tiger-.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_375648-Made-for-Movie-PzKpfwVI--Tiger-.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_524671-Made-for-Movie-PzKpfwVI--Tiger-.html

These are either KhPZ T-44M or Uralvagonzavod T-54 or T-55, it's impossible to tell from the suspension. Maybe list them as "T-54/55"? If you want to keep them as MfM then I understand in this case. I don't have a better suggestion.
as Krupp Pz.Kpfw.IV
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_555283-Made-for-Movie-PzKpfwIV.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_290577-Made-for-Movie-PzKpfwIV-AusfH.html
as MAN Pz.Kpfw.V Panther Ausf.A
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1280430-Made-for-Movie-PzKpfwV-Panther.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1453829-Made-for-Movie-PzKpfwV-Panther.html
as Henschel Pz.Kpfw.VI Tiger
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_215817-Made-for-Movie-PzKpfwVI--Tiger-.html

Uralvagonzavod T-54 as Henschel Pz.Kpfw.VI Tiger
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1486409-Made-for-Movie-PzKpfwVI--Tiger-.html
Uralvagonzavod T-54 as German Tank (generic)
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_397297-Made-for-Movie.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1620590-Made-for-Movie.html

Uralvagonzavod T-54 or T-55 as Henschel Pz.Kpfw.VI Tiger Ausf.H1
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_870445-Made-for-Movie-PzKpfwVI--Tiger-.html

ChKZ IS-2 as Henschel Pz.Kpfw.VI Tiger
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_555278-Made-for-Movie-PzKpfwVI--Tiger-.html

GAZ BTR-40
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1102525-Made-for-Movie.html

VgTZ DT-75 as Tank (generic)
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_624193-Made-for-Movie.html

Ford T16 as Krupp Pz.Kpfw.I Ausf.B (should be T16 not T-16, no dash)
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1057990-Made-for-Movie-PzKpfwI.html

Ford M8 Greyhound as Büssing-NAG Sd.Kfz.231 (6 Rad)
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_624169-Made-for-Movie-SdKfz231.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1123115-Made-for-Movie.html

Reo XM453E3 as GAZ BTR-60
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_22102-Made-for-Movie-BTR-60.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_22106-Made-for-Movie-BTR-60.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_172738-Made-for-Movie-BTR-60.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_649501-Made-for-Movie-BTR-60.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_329012-Made-for-Movie-BTR-60.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_656383-Made-for-Movie-BTR-60.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1772727-Made-For-Movie-BTR-60.html

FMC M113 as M2 Bradley
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_131328-Made-for-Movie-M2-Bradley.html

Allis-Chalmers M8 High-Speed Tractor as Uralvagonzavod T-72
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_22108-Made-for-Movie-T-72.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_12186-Made-for-Movie-T-72.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_48507-Made-for-Movie-T-72.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_172729-Made-for-Movie-T-72.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_354674-Made-for-Movie-T-72.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_463324-Made-for-Movie-T-72.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_598559-Made-for-Movie-T-72.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_598560-Made-for-Movie-T-72.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_619231-Made-for-Movie-T-72.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1258140-Made-for-Movie-T-72.html
Allis-Chalmers M8 High-Speed Tractor as MMZ ZSU-23-4 Shilka
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_22118-Made-for-Movie-ZSU-23-4-Shilka.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_172736-Made-for-Movie-ZSU-23-4-Shilka.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_354676-Made-for-Movie-ZSU-23-4-Shilka.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1051121-Made-for-Movie-ZSU-23-4-Shilka.html
Allis-Chalmers M8 High-Speed Tractor as "MBT-90 Thunderblast"
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_354684-Made-for-Movie.html

Brockway B666 as Ural BM-21 Grad
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_354681-Made-for-Movie-Ural-375D.html

General Dynamics LAV-AD
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_255470-Made-for-Movie.html

FMC M48 Chaparral
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_973989-Made-for-Movie.html

Aveling-Barford Universal Carrier as German Half-track
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_306550-Made-for-Movie.html

Loyd Carrier as Tank (generic)
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_591387-Made-for-Movie.html

Rolls-Royce 40/50 h.p. Armoured Car Replica (might be the same exact one as: https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_53043-Rolls-Royce-40-50-hp-Armoured-Car-Replica-1924.html)
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1575628-Made-for-movie.html

GKN Defence FV432 as KhPZ BT-7
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_585232-Made-for-Movie-KhPZ-BT-7.html
GKN Defence FV432 as Alkett StuG III Ausf.G
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_56758-Made-for-Movie-StuG-III-Ausf-G.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_97388-Made-for-Movie-StuG-III-ausF-G.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_833277-Made-for-Movie-StuG-III-ausF-G.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_56769-Made-for-Movie-StuG-III-Ausf-G.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1310143-Made-for-Movie-StuG-III-Ausf-G.html

Vickers-Armstrongs Centurion
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_192420-Made-for-Movie.html

Vickers-Armstrongs FV4006 Centurion ARV as Metropolitan Carriage and Wagon Mark V
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_22407-Made-for-Movie-Mark-V.html

Krauss-Maffei Leopard 1
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1285330-Made-for-Movie.html

Hotchkiss Schützenpanzer SPz 11-2 Kurz as Daimler-Benz Pz.Kpfw.II
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_927570-Made-for-Movie-PzKpfwII.html

GIAT AMX-30
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_219955-Made-for-Movie.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_671932-Made-for-Movie.html

K+W Panzer 61 as Daimler-Benz Pz.Kpfw.III
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_191366-Made-for-Movie-SdKfz141-PzKpfwIII.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_191367-Made-for-Movie-SdKfz141-PzKpfwIII.html

FAMOS M-60 as Daimler-Benz Pz.Kpfw.III
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_308482-Made-for-Movie.html

I know that's a lot. I don't want you to feel like I'm piling a whole bunch of stuff on you, just whenever you're able to, no rush. I'm looking forward to doing the American ones, I find this kind of organizing satisfying.

We appreciate the help. I know that I have mentioned to Mike962 in the past that for these obscure names sometimes it helps to link ones that are already established in the database in your comment to make it easier for the admin updating the entry.

Obviously if they are all listed wrong then it’s better to have antp do it in one fell swoop then manually doing one by one.

Normal admins do not have the right to do a mass update (many entries). That is one feature antp (owner/main admin) has exclusive rights to do

Thanks for the list of fixes
I already processed the post from 22:43, I'll do the next one later today.

edit: that's a longer list that I thought
Still have to do Reo XM453E3 and next ones

I actually talked to the owner of the XM453E3 recently, they still have it. He told me that one is serial number 1, out of 3. I had learned only a few weeks ago about the other two surviving XM453s, one Ford and one GMC, so I was really happy to find out through this site that a Reo version still exists as well. I have an interest in preserving oddball, prototype military vehicles, so I was letting him know I was interested in it. He said he would keep me in mind for if they sell it. I'd love to be able to reunite all three of them and have them on display. I'm working on getting a building for the vehicles I already have.

I won't have time to continue renaming things posted on the forum until Monday or Tuesday, but don't worry, it is not lost, I'll process these later

That's fine I understand. In the meantime, here's more work for you

Slight oversight, one is listed as Type 75 MLRS (correct), but the others are just Type 75.
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles.php?make=Komatsu&model=Type+75+MLRS&
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles.php?make=Komatsu&model=Type+75&

The "[Type 37]" in brackets doesn't need to be there. I don't even know what that would be referring to, originally a typo maybe if someone meant Type 97.
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles.php?make=Isuzu&model=Type+97&

These two are under different categories by mistake. Should be "Walker Bulldog" with no dash. That's my mistake, I accidentally wrote a dash in my last correction list.
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles.php?make=Made+for+Movie&model=M41+%27Walker+Bulld- og%27&modelMatch=1&modelInclModel=on
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_356748-Made-for-Movie-M41--Walker-Bulldog-.html

The model for all 3 of these should be "Austin-Putilov Armoured Car"
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles_make-Austin-Putilov.html


One thing, this isn't a correction, more an opinion: I think it would be worth getting rid of the quote marks around the names for American tanks. " M4 'Sherman' " to " M4 Sherman " and so on. I mean they were official names, on the manuals even, and the equivalent nicknames for German tanks, like the Tiger and Panther, aren't in quotes. If you search " M1 Abrams " on the site search function it doesn't show up, you have to enter it as " M1 'Abrams' " for the site to display results, and most people won't know to do that. It's not too big of a deal, but if it's something you want to change maybe now is the time to do it.

All American military "M", "T", and "XM" numbers don't have a dash or space. So "M4" is correct, "M-4" is not. There's also no space between "A" and "E" numbers, which denote specific versions, but I assume they are spaced on the site because of the way the categories work? "M4" and "M4A1" would be separate entries, but having it as "M4 A1" allows it to show up under "M4", correct?


The best resource I can recommend for identifying M3 Lees and M4 Shermans is http://the.shadock.free.fr/sherman_minutia/index.html There is enough information on that site to pinpoint any Sherman-family tank, as long as you have enough detail in the photos. I personally can tell apart most of the major versions (I still struggle with 75mm M4A2 vs M4A3), but I can't recognize the manufacturer by heart. It's possible to figure it out by using this site, but I don't have that much time to go through every single Sherman.

I made a quick ID guide for major features of each version (beyond the obvious, you have to be at least familiar with the Sherman for this to be useful) https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hV_v8YAG12bgr2bc0WCs6GasfMUxoN680BbC0QT-8xg/edit?usp=sharing
When there are multiple manufacturers for a version, the one that built the most tanks is in bold. So Alco is the default for base model M4s and Fisher is the default for M4A2s.


Starting with Alco

Chrysler M3 Lee (All M3A3s were built by Baldwin, not Alco. The M3A3 had a welded hull, but the ones in this picture are riveted, so they are normal M3s.)
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1132032-Alco-M3-A3--Lee-.html

Baldwin M3A3 Grant as Fisher M4A2 Sherman (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AQdxOtrn9Y)
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_305497-Alco-M4--Sherman--1941.html

Fisher M4A2 Sherman
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1004054-Alco-M4--Sherman-.html

Ford M4A3 Sherman
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1896607-Alco-M4--Sherman-.html

Chrysler M4A3 (76)W Sherman
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1465057-Alco-M4--Sherman-.html

It may take a few different passes to get all the Shermans identified correctly, these are just the obviously wrong ones for now.


There were 3 versions of the M7 Priest: M7, M7B1, and M7B2. The M7 and M7B2 can only be told apart from transmission cover or from the rear engine compartment; The M7 was based on the hull of the M3 Lee, the M7B1 was based on the hull of the M4 Sherman. The M7B2 has the cannon mounted much higher up and is easy to spot. In this case, "Priest" is a nickname and was not official.

Alco M7 105mm HMC 'Priest'
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_130083-Alco-M7.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_184312-Alco-M7.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_298806-Alco-M7.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_441376-Alco-M7.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_465102-Alco-M7.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_465463-Alco-M7.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_632050-Alco-M7.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_701677-Alco-M7.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1565597-Alco-M7.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1635682-Alco-M7.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1696881-Alco-M7.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_106031-Alco-M7-1942.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_434706-Alco-M7-1942.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1716232-Alco-M7-1942.html

Alco M7B1 105mm HMC 'Priest'
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_284280-Alco-M7.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_309260-Alco-M7.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_712197-Alco-M7.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_766815-Alco-M7.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1048868-Alco-M7.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1399212-Alco-M7.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1514836-Alco-M7.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_570349-Alco-M7-1942.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1151400-Cadillac-M37-Howitzer-Motor-Carriage-1944.html

Alco M7B2 105mm HMC 'Priest'
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_323018-Alco-M7.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_524180-Alco-M7.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_526577-Alco-M7.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_719010-Alco-M7.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_795196-Alco-M7.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_857208-Alco-M7.html - Alco M7B2 105mm HMC 'Priest' as Marder
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_901626-Alco-M7.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1426882-Alco-M7.html

Allis-Chalmers M6 High-Speed Tractor
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_183222-Allis-Chalmers-M4-1942.html

Rename all of the rest (M4s) to "M4 High-Speed Tractor" as the model
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles.php?make=Allis-Chalmers&model=M4&

Rename model to "M50 Ontos"
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles.php?make=Allis-Chalmers&model=M50&


This is misidentified. The M51 was a dump truck, and also wasn't built by AM General. I would say move this to International Harvester M54, that's the basic cargo truck. You could also be pedantic and go with International Harvester M61, which was the basic chassis that all trucks of this family were based on, since this is a cartoon and it has some pretend thing on the back.
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1072397-AM-General-M-51.html

All of these should have the dash removed from their name. M109, M151, M275, and so on.
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles.php?make=AM+General&model=M-109&modelMatch=1&modelInclModel=on
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles.php?make=AM+General&model=M-109+A3&modelMatch=1&modelInclModel=on
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles.php?make=AM+General&model=M-151+A2+27&modelMatch=1&modelInclModel=on
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles.php?make=AM+General&model=M-275&modelMatch=1&modelInclModel=on
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles.php?make=AM+General&model=M-292&modelMatch=1&modelInclModel=on
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles.php?make=AM+General&model=M-35&modelMatch=1&modelInclModel=on
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles.php?make=AM+General&model=M-35+A2&modelMatch=1&modelInclModel=on
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles.php?make=AM+General&model=M-35+A3&modelMatch=1&modelInclModel=on
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles.php?make=AM+General&model=M-36&modelMatch=1&modelInclModel=on
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles.php?make=AM+General&model=M-44&modelMatch=1&modelInclModel=on
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles.php?make=AM+General&model=M-49+A2C&modelMatch=1&modelInclModel=on
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles.php?make=AM+General&model=M-543&modelMatch=1&modelInclModel=on
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles.php?make=AM+General&model=M-621&modelMatch=1&modelInclModel=on
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles.php?make=AM+General&model=M-809&modelMatch=1&modelInclModel=on
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles.php?make=AM+General&model=M-813&modelMatch=1&modelInclModel=on
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles.php?make=AM+General&model=M-814&modelMatch=1&modelInclModel=on
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles.php?make=AM+General&model=M-816&modelMatch=1&modelInclModel=on
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles.php?make=AM+General&model=M-817&modelMatch=1&modelInclModel=on
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles.php?make=AM+General&model=M-818&modelMatch=1&modelInclModel=on
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles.php?make=AM+General&model=M-916&modelMatch=1&modelInclModel=on
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles.php?make=AM+General&model=M-923&modelMatch=1&modelInclModel=on
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles.php?make=AM+General&model=M-925&modelMatch=1&modelInclModel=on
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles.php?make=AM+General&model=M-927&modelMatch=1&modelInclModel=on
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles.php?make=AM+General&model=M-928&modelMatch=1&modelInclModel=on
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles.php?make=AM+General&model=M-929&modelMatch=1&modelInclModel=on
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles.php?make=AM+General&model=M-931&modelMatch=1&modelInclModel=on
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles.php?make=AM+General&model=M-934&modelMatch=1&modelInclModel=on
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles.php?make=AM+General&model=M-936&modelMatch=1&modelInclModel=on
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles.php?make=AM+General&model=M-939&modelMatch=1&modelInclModel=on