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antp
Updated, thanks
Harold B
Thanks for resetting my account antp, I got back in now. I just hope that doesn't happpen again.
I went over everything and it all looks good. There are only a couple of things, mostly stuff that was overlooked or was my mistake.
The M4A3E4s are missing the name Sherman
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles.php?make=Fisher&model=M4+A3+E4&modelMatch=1&modelInclModel=- on
'HVSS' can be removed from the additional info here, since now it's in the name
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1938431-Pressed-Steel-M4-A1--Sherman-.html
Remove "75(W)" from the additional info. Ford didn't make wet ammo stowage Shermans. That's what the W signifies.
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_183392-Fisher-M4-A3--Sherman--1944.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_115044-Fisher-M4-A3--Sherman--1944.html
"Modified" can be removed from the additional info
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_286535-Fisher-M4-A2--Sherman-.html
This is a real, Chrysler M4A3 (76)W HVSS Sherman. I must have put in under the made for movie ones by mistake.
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_575377-Pressed-Steel-M4-A1--Sherman--1942.html
The four Sherman IC Firefly's should have "Hybrid" added as additional info, as they have the composite half-cast half-welded hull, which not all of them had.
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles_make-Chrysler_model-M4+Sherman+IC+27.html
These M4A1s can be identified as Montreal Locomotive Works Grizzly's because of the particular tracks and drive sprockets they used. So they go here https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles_make-Montreal+Locomotive_model-M4.html
All Grizzlys were made in 1943
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_56767-Pressed-Steel-M4-A1-Sherman.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_595019-Pressed-Steel-M4-A1-Sherman.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_355219-Pressed-Steel-M4-A1-Sherman.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_549388-Pressed-Steel-M4-A1-Sherman-1942.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1792491-Pressed-Steel-M4-A1-Sherman-1942.html
I went over everything and it all looks good. There are only a couple of things, mostly stuff that was overlooked or was my mistake.
The M4A3E4s are missing the name Sherman
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles.php?make=Fisher&model=M4+A3+E4&modelMatch=1&modelInclModel=- on
'HVSS' can be removed from the additional info here, since now it's in the name
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1938431-Pressed-Steel-M4-A1--Sherman-.html
Remove "75(W)" from the additional info. Ford didn't make wet ammo stowage Shermans. That's what the W signifies.
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_183392-Fisher-M4-A3--Sherman--1944.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_115044-Fisher-M4-A3--Sherman--1944.html
"Modified" can be removed from the additional info
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_286535-Fisher-M4-A2--Sherman-.html
This is a real, Chrysler M4A3 (76)W HVSS Sherman. I must have put in under the made for movie ones by mistake.
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_575377-Pressed-Steel-M4-A1--Sherman--1942.html
The four Sherman IC Firefly's should have "Hybrid" added as additional info, as they have the composite half-cast half-welded hull, which not all of them had.
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles_make-Chrysler_model-M4+Sherman+IC+27.html
These M4A1s can be identified as Montreal Locomotive Works Grizzly's because of the particular tracks and drive sprockets they used. So they go here https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles_make-Montreal+Locomotive_model-M4.html
All Grizzlys were made in 1943
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_56767-Pressed-Steel-M4-A1-Sherman.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_595019-Pressed-Steel-M4-A1-Sherman.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_355219-Pressed-Steel-M4-A1-Sherman.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_549388-Pressed-Steel-M4-A1-Sherman-1942.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1792491-Pressed-Steel-M4-A1-Sherman-1942.html
Jnglmpera
@Harold_B
I posted a response to your comment/question in Baka-tan, can you check it out please?
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1663828-Studebaker-M-29--Weasel-.html
I posted a response to your comment/question in Baka-tan, can you check it out please?
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1663828-Studebaker-M-29--Weasel-.html
antp
Thanks for your help
I still have to do some cleanup by removing unnecessary spaces and quotes on some models
I still have to do some cleanup by removing unnecessary spaces and quotes on some models
Harold B
For https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles.php?make=Pressed+Steel&model=M51+%27Super+Sherman- %27&modelMatch=1&modelInclModel=on is it M-50 or M-51 then?
M-51. Sorry, it's kinda hard to keep everything straight when you're thinking about so many things at once. The M-50 is a related version, but all of those are M-51s.
Yes I did make a few corrections and additions after you started on it, mostly because Mike pointed out I made a mistake with a couple of the A2/A3s. I'll check everything again later to make sure nothing got missed.
I'm just glad it's done now though. Reorganizing the Shermans was probably the biggest task out of all the tanks. Now that there's no longer any glaringly obvious errors, I'll try asking a few people I know if they can further ID some of them. Like specifically, to see if there are any Grizzly's in among the normal M4A1s. The Grizzly was the Canadian-produced version. I don't know what to look for on those specifically, but else someone might.
antp
For https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles.php?make=Pressed+Steel&model=M51+%27Super+Sherman- %27&modelMatch=1&modelInclModel=on is it M-50 or M-51 then?
antp
Possible that by going back and forth at some moment I took a part of the first post instead of the second? Or I may have missed one or two blocks, I'll check.
Haven't you added some after I processed them? (last edit is 06/11 but I processed all that on 05/11)
Haven't you added some after I processed them? (last edit is 06/11 but I processed all that on 05/11)
Harold B
Were you still working on the list of Shermans? I noticed you updated a lot of them but also missed a lot, so you may have been looking at the wrong post and not the updated one.
antp
For the "Made for Movie" tanks, often we were not including the make in the model like what was done for other kinds of vehicles, because for real ones that make was added just because we needed one, as the tanks did not really had a make.
antp
but the forum wouldn't let me edit it, probably because it's too old
Indeed, I think posts can't be modified after some time on the forum.
"Pressed Steel" as a manufacturer should be "Pressed Steel Car". Pressed Steel Car Company was the company that made M4A1 Shermans https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pressed_Steel_Car_Company Pressed Steel Company was an unrelated British company https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pressed_Steel_Company
In a way it sounds strange to have the "Car" part without the "Company", maybe the name "Pressed Steel" was used as a shorter name, as there is no really "make" name for these tanks?
Otherwise I can change it and redirect the old name to the new one, like for the "s" added to Vickers Armstrongs.