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Top Gear's Crap Cars
Published 17/05/2011 @ 18:08:12, By Sandie
50 Lancia Monte Carlo
49 Porsche 924
48 Ford Scorpio
47 Cadillac STS
46 Renault Safrane
45 Jaguar XJ40
44 Ford Escort MKIV (though they mean MKV)
43 Yugo Sana
42 Mitsubishi 3000 GT
41 Rover 800
40 Volvo 340
39 Delorean DMC-12
38 Vauxhall Belmont
37 Triumph TR7
36 Rolls-Royce Camargue
35 Talbot Tagora
34 Suzuki Wagon R
33 Volvo 262 C
32 Subaru XT
31 Nissan Sunny Coupe
30 Skoda Estelle
29 Renault 9
28 Maserati Biturbo
27 Daihatsu Move
26 Alfa Romeo Arna
25 Hyundai Pony
24 Fiat Strada
23 Subaru Justy
22 Austin Maestro
21 Toyota Space Cruiser
20 Fiat 126
19 Daihatsu Applause
18 Ferrari 400
17 Austin Ambassador
16 Yugo 45
15 Datsun Sunny [120Y]
14 Aston Martin Lagonda
13 Suzuki SJ
12 FSO Polenez
11 Seat Marbella
10 MGB
9 Trabant
8 Reliant Robin
7 Bond Bug
6 Nissan Serena
5 Lada Riva
4 Morris Marina
3 Suzuki X90
2 Austin Allegro
1 Volkswagen Beetle
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Top Gear's Crap Cars
Published 17/05/2011 @ 18:14:54, By Nightrider
50 Lancia Monte Carlo
49 Porsche 924
47 Cadillac STS
46 Renault Safrane
45 Jaguar XJ40
42 Mitsubishi 3000 GT
34 Suzuki Wagon R
12 FSO Polenez
10 MGB
6 Nissan Serena
5 Lada Riva
1 Volkswagen Beetle


Why?
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Top Gear's Crap Cars
Published 17/05/2011 @ 18:16:18, By G-MANN
Thanks Sandie :grin:

Here's another Top Gear crap cars list, from a pamphlet that came with a 2004 issue of Top Gear magazine (which I still have because it's good for a laugh)

50: Ssangyong Musso
49: Vauxhall Cavalier MkII Convertible
48: Volvo 340
47: Ferrari Mondial
46: Renault Spider
45: Mercedes Vaneo
44: Austin Princess (1975-81 - not the 1950s limousine)
43: Kia Pride
42: Seat Ibiza MkI
41: Vauxhall Vectra MkI
40: Peugeot 206CC
39: Morris Ital
38: Ford Escort MkIV (1986-90)
37: Nissan 100NX
36: Lexus SC430
35: Datsun Sunny 120Y
34: MG Metro Turbo
33: Mitsubishi Carisma
32: Skoda Rapide Cabriolet
31: Kia Elan
30: Ford Pinto
29: FSO Polonez
28: Ford Mustang MkIII (1979)
27: Pontiac Aztek
26: Ford Probe
25: Chrysler Neon
24: Marcos Mantis
23: Hyundai Atoz
22: Rover 200 BRM (1998)
21: Daewoo Espero
20: Ford Scorpio (1995-2000)
19: Austin Allego Equipe
18: Porsche Cayenne
17: Ford Fusion
16: Nissan Serena
15: Hyundai SCoupe MVTi
14: Rover 220 Turbo Coupe (1992-97)
13: Vauxhall Frontera
12: Hyundai XG30
11: Asia Rocsta
10: AMC Pacer
9: Volkswagen Polo Harlequin
8: Cadillac Seville Diesel (1980)
7: Panther De Ville
6: Daihatsu YRV Turbo
5: MG Maestro
4: Reliant Kitten
3: Alfa Romeo Arna
2: Saab 9-3 Viggen Cabrio
1: Suzuki X-90

Has a few of the cars that later went into the Crap Cars book (but probably written by different people)

Latest Edition: 17/05/2011 @ 18:26:58
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Published 17/05/2011 @ 18:17:59, By G-MANN


They will have explained their reasoning in the book.

47 Cadillac STS


I imagine they're talking about the 1990s Cadillac Seville STS, which was briefly sold in the UK and didn't do too well.

1 Volkswagen Beetle


Now is that the new Beetle or the old Beetle?

Latest Edition: 17/05/2011 @ 18:25:07
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Top Gear's Crap Cars
Published 17/05/2011 @ 18:27:15, By antp
Lots of nice cars in these lists :oh:
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Top Gear's Crap Cars
Published 17/05/2011 @ 18:27:51, By Nightrider


They will have explained their reasoning in the book.




Asyou can suggest, I don'thave this book. :crazy:
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Top Gear's Crap Cars
Published 17/05/2011 @ 18:30:01, By G-MANN
Lots of nice cars in these lists :oh:


You would say that :grin: (although I think putting the Jaguar XJ40 in was a bit harsh)

In the "50 worst" list some of them are specific models, like with the Saab 9-3 Viggen Cabrio for example, they've singled out a particular model rather than the whole 9-3 range.

Asyou can suggest, I don'thave this book. :crazy:


Well neither do I, but if we ask Sandie nicely (and he's not busy) he might give us some extracts from the book.

12 FSO Polenez
5 Lada Riva


Nightrider, do you really not think these are crap cars? :tongue:

Latest Edition: 17/05/2011 @ 18:40:12
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Top Gear's Crap Cars
Published 17/05/2011 @ 18:48:20, By Nightrider


Nightrider, do you really not think these are crap cars? :tongue:


Being a 2105 owner, I must admit, that it isn't. As far as you consider it as workhorse and don't expect luxury goods, alot of power etc etc.
Of course it's 30-years old model and even older design....
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Top Gear's Crap Cars
Published 17/05/2011 @ 18:51:40, By G-MANN
Isn't it really a car where you say "it's better than nothing"?
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Top Gear's Crap Cars
Published 17/05/2011 @ 18:58:47, By Neon
They don't know the difference between crap and unusual... these two lists are full of non ordinary cars but is not translatable with "crap"!
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Published 17/05/2011 @ 19:04:01, By Sandie
The Beetle was the original model. The demolition job was pretty funny.

'For some reason beardy peacenicks and straggly-haired surfer dudes love the Beetle thinking it cool and alternative. Which is fine, although it does rather overlook the fact that it is clearly bollocks. What we have here is a dismal germanic car with its engine in the wrong place and a list of built-in faults so long it could fill every page in this book... It's slow, it's noisy, it's uncomfortable and it has such a completely pathetic heater that on cold days you are better off setting fire to your hair. The Beetle doesn't make you cool and alternative at all - it simply marks you out as the kind of mush-brained tit who knows nothing about cars and gives names to inanimate objects.

The MG B is on the list because it is technologically unsophisticated and is driven by boring people.
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Published 17/05/2011 @ 19:26:43, By G-MANN
They don't know the difference between crap and unusual... these two lists are full of non ordinary cars but is not translatable with "crap"!


No, the two lists are full of cars that were experimental but bad ideas. Like the VW Polo Harlequin http://majorgav.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/vw-polo-harlequin.jpg "Looks, as a result, like one of those bangers that's been repaired using randomly painted panel collected from write-offs during a rummage around at a local scrapyard. Apparently aimed at the cluelessly, self-consciously wacky buyer."

Latest Edition: 17/05/2011 @ 19:30:41
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Published 17/05/2011 @ 19:34:31, By Nightrider
Isn't it really a car where you say "it's better than nothing"?



Better than 1111. Better than 2105 of 90s vintage.)
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Published 17/05/2011 @ 19:37:16, By Nightrider


The MG B is on the list because it is technologically unsophisticated and is driven by boring people.


Since what "unsophisticated" became synonim of crap?
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Published 17/05/2011 @ 19:42:56, By Sandie
I don't disagree. I like the MG B.
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Published 17/05/2011 @ 20:22:35, By Nightrider
. What we have here is a dismal germanic car with its engine in the wrong place and a list of built-in faults so long it could fill every page in this book... It's slow, it's noisy, it's uncomfortable and it has such a completely pathetic heater that on cold days you are better off setting fire to your hair. The Beetle doesn't make you cool and alternative at all - it simply marks you out as the kind of mush-brained tit who knows nothing about cars and gives names to inanimate objects.



Well, extraction clearly shows authors attitude. "Germanic" sounds somewhat nationalistic. "Engine in the wrong place" sounds шgnorant. "It's slow" - what dis you expect - 200MPH car?
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Top Gear's Crap Cars
Published 17/05/2011 @ 20:46:01, By ingo

They will have explained their reasoning in the book.


Where's the need for anyone to notice these reasonings and opinions? For who the f.ck it's important in any way?

It's terrifying to see, which IMCDB-members are involved in this thread. Sorry, but it's possible to feel offended, when I point out my (still known) opinion about the audience of this shit. The opinion won't be changing, just because some honourable IMCDB-ists are participating to it now.
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Published 17/05/2011 @ 21:02:02, By Nightrider
Well, I was thinking that we just preparing to throwing shit at BBC once more.)
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Published 17/05/2011 @ 21:08:39, By ingo
Naah, BBC itself is not that bad. In fact they are making the best documentations of all TV-companies worldwide. My wife and me really like to see them.

So it's indeed a question, why the "Old Aunt" let such shit farting out. Under their name and by their stations. Very odd. Totally diametral to their common standard and reputation.
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Published 17/05/2011 @ 21:09:14, By G-MANN
Well, extraction clearly shows authors attitude. "Germanic" sounds somewhat nationalistic. "Engine in the wrong place" sounds шgnorant. "It's slow" - what dis you expect - 200MPH car?


It's meant to be slightly humourous. I don't know exactly if he meant to use the term "Germanic" like it was a bad thing, he might have only intended to say that it is German, but after all this was the car originally dreamt up by Hitler to be the "people's car". Even if he did mean it in a slightly xenophobic way, this would not be unacceptable in Britain and a lot of people are still amused by this kind of humour (as long as it's relatively harmless)

At the end of the day, it's an opinion. The Beetle is a cult car and I think the author is just rebelling against this because he doesn't buy into its cult appeal enough to overlook its flaws. I think he gives a fair explanation for why he dislikes it (noisy, uncomfortable and faulty), when he says it's slow that may be a fair comment because this car stayed around for years and it's lack of speed probably became more and more obvious and as newer cars came along. People don't usually want a car to be slow and unable to keep up with the rest of the traffic.

When he says the engine's in the wrong place, that is a joke, he really means he thinks the design is awkward.

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