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The "Fifty-Fifty" thread
Published 13/04/2016 @ 17:43:30, By Gamer
Many of our unknowns have been sitting in the section for the simple reason that the model is identified, but we have a fifty-fifty chance of getting it right because there is a rebadge of the car. For this reason, I've posted this thread, for defaulting such vehicles.

So let's start - I'd make this a Dodge, for instance: http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_409420.html
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The "Fifty-Fifty" thread
Published 13/04/2016 @ 17:49:41, By antp
Indeed, like some identified that are missed, some are waiting for someone to confirm, but often it is impossible to decide.
So for these we can add a (by default) as extra info as previously suggested, to indicate that the model was arbitrarily decided between several possibilities.

But do not report those that were "identified" only a few days ago. This one is only a few weeks old, maybe better to focus on those buried deeper in the unknowns.

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The "Fifty-Fifty" thread
Published 13/04/2016 @ 17:59:18, By Gamer
I guess you can make this a Dodge, 1995-98: http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_700733-Neon.html
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The "Fifty-Fifty" thread
Published 13/04/2016 @ 19:30:39, By Sandie
Many of our unknowns have been sitting in the section for the simple reason that the model is identified, but we have a fifty-fifty chance of getting it right because there is a rebadge of the car. For this reason, I've posted this thread, for defaulting such vehicles.


The problem is that not all admins have agreed on using default naming in the past. I agree that it's useful so long as it's clear a name is a default so maybe the idea is needing to be revisited.

For me, the 'impossible to discern which version' vehicles (along with the impossible to identify properly due to poor quality images) distract us from the unknowns that someone new might recognise or someone old will find some information on.
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The "Fifty-Fifty" thread
Published 14/04/2016 @ 13:48:05, By rjluna2
The only alternative is that we can put up more general platform such as GM based G-Series or Ford E-Series until more detail can be defined. Now, for the Mopar cars, obviously, we can't use that word for the generic Chrysler platform :ohwell:
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The "Fifty-Fifty" thread
Published 15/04/2016 @ 00:18:43, By eLMeR
By default in the extra info field as said by antp has my vote (transformed into a checkbox in NextGen?): for now, without any mention of that kind, it's almost impossible to distinguish quickly vehicles set that way from really identified models.
Once noted that way, contributors knowing / having just learnt the very small differences between clones (if any) will see more easily which vehicles could need this information...
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The "Fifty-Fifty" thread
Published 15/04/2016 @ 21:59:15, By antp
(transformed into a checkbox in NextGen?)


Yes, I do not know yet how/what, but as long as we put it in a standardized way it is easy to track later if we need to change/convert the system.
So I used "(by default)", I strongly suggest to do the same in such cases.

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The "Fifty-Fifty" thread
Published 16/04/2016 @ 19:39:38, By Gamer
Suburban by default, I'd say: http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=8294
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The "Fifty-Fifty" thread
Published 16/04/2016 @ 21:12:51, By Baube
There is more Tahoe than Suburban
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The "Fifty-Fifty" thread
Published 23/04/2016 @ 00:10:01, By eLMeR
[...]So I used "(by default)", I strongly suggest to do the same in such cases.

With or without brackets? The first attempt already create a variation of the proposed standard :grin:
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The "Fifty-Fifty" thread
Published 24/04/2016 @ 22:12:42, By antp
I'd put the brackets to avoid that mistaken as something else (as usually the "by something" indicates a body maker, tuner, or things like that.
In the Dodge link you posted, I don't know why "by default" was added since it is a Dodge :confused: Or is Gamer's comment wrong?
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The "Fifty-Fifty" thread
Published 24/04/2016 @ 22:23:13, By Sandie
Yes, both kinds could have painted sections on the bumper:
https://farm7.staticflickr.com/6172/6174011920_2682846949_b.jpg (look at the red 4dr one)
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=815073
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The "Fifty-Fifty" thread
Published 26/04/2016 @ 16:07:35, By Gamer
I guess you could make this a Volaré per my and rjluna's comment? http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_237768.html
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The "Fifty-Fifty" thread
Published 26/04/2016 @ 17:35:10, By antp
From the discussion I don't see why one rather than the other? Or else we just pick one and add "(by default)".
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The "Fifty-Fifty" thread
Published 26/04/2016 @ 17:37:52, By night cub
I tried adding "by default" to an entry last week on a Dodge Colt/Plymouth Champ. Another admin deleted the phrase. You can't win.
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The "Fifty-Fifty" thread
Published 26/04/2016 @ 18:18:19, By Gamer
From the discussion I don't see why one rather than the other? Or else we just pick one and add "(by default)".

Because of the location of the trim. Or should we wait until someone confirms that's where the trim went?

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The "Fifty-Fifty" thread
Published 26/04/2016 @ 18:22:20, By night cub
That one has no trim, which is how both the base models for the Aspen and Volare came.
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The "Fifty-Fifty" thread
Published 26/04/2016 @ 18:38:27, By Gamer
I was leaning more towards Volaré anyways, so if there is truly no other way to identify it, let's make it that.
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The "Fifty-Fifty" thread
Published 26/04/2016 @ 18:51:44, By Sandie
I tried adding "by default" to an entry last week on a Dodge Colt/Plymouth Champ. Another admin deleted the phrase. You can't win.


I guess not all admins check the forum. :ohwell:
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The "Fifty-Fifty" thread
Published 02/05/2016 @ 10:24:49, By Gamer
Shall we delete this?
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_701971.html

Chevrolet by default:
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_661444.html

I think I'd make this one a Plymouth: http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_796836.html

And I think this one is more likely a Mercury for some reason: http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_779280-1996.html
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