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Published 20/01/2013 @ 12:08:05, By antp
It is funny how on Wikipedia they list the body style starting in 2003, but the first engine is from 2004. Were the early ones engineless? :grin:

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Published 22/01/2013 @ 22:53:32, By Mudflap2
Could we please have all rear-engined (1977-1984) Leyland Titans updated to have [B15] as the chassis code? This would seperate them from the classic Titan models.
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Published 23/01/2013 @ 18:00:50, By antp
There seem to be only six, I did it manually
(maybe more amongst those who don't have the year specified)
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Published 14/03/2013 @ 12:39:10, By kegare
Question whether the chassis codename is actually the generation codename for the Chevrolet Corvette:

http://imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=569324
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Published 08/03/2014 @ 16:02:32, By I-Denev
It will be good to rename all the "Kamaz" trucks. They should rather be listed as "KamAZ". And why not make them automatically converted if a user writes "Kamaz".
http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/КамАЗ

Kam comes from Kama (river). AZ means Automobile Plant (Автомобильный Завод).

By the same logic are listed BelAZ and KrAZ.
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Published 08/03/2014 @ 17:36:43, By kegare
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Published 08/03/2014 @ 17:36:53, By antp
done

edit: done too for Kegare's post which came when I was posting in reply to I-Denev.
At the same time I also applied that to Nash-Healey.

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Published 08/03/2014 @ 17:59:42, By kegare
Thanks, antp.

Could you also do something about the Corvette post mentioned earlier? It is more appropriate for the C1/C2/C3/C4/C5/C6/C7 codes to show up as generations instead of chassis codes, as the B5/B6/B7/B8 codes show up for the Audi, for example.

http://web-cars.com/corvette/c-generations.php
http://www.corvsport.com/Corvette/Overview.html
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Published 08/03/2014 @ 21:14:02, By eLMeR
What about Peugeot 504 Break (126 vehicles) vs Peugeot 504 Estate (24 members)?
The second group has only right-hand drive 504s. Is this the reason why the "Breaks" stay "Estate"?

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Published 08/03/2014 @ 21:52:38, By kegare
The second group has only right-hand drive 504s. Is this the reason why the "Breaks" stay "Estate"?


I suppose it is because its name was different in the UK market.
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Published 08/03/2014 @ 22:05:11, By dsl
I don't think having Jensen-Healey as a separate make from Jensen is a good idea (even if strictly "correct"). It makes it more easily lost if not part of Jensen, and will create problems if and when we get any examples of the Jensen GT which is very much the Healey's younger brother but never had a Healey name reference. So I think we should stick to Jensen as make and Healey as model - it's not "wrong" (the manufacturer was still Jensen Motors) and is much less confusing for actual usage.

I suspect Nash-Healey as make may cause similar usage problems, although not really knowledgeable enough to push that case either way.
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Published 09/03/2014 @ 00:39:43, By eLMeR
I suppose it is because its name was different in the UK market.

Indeed :smile:
My question was more about why they had not been renamed:
- because IMCDb wants to underline this distinctive feature?
- or because nobody thought about this hiatus until now?

Maybe it would be better to have a common "Break/Estate"(1) category, so that someone seeking after this kind of 504 in movies should see both right- and left-hand drive cars?

(1): or "Estate/Break". Tirez les premiers, Messieurs les Anglais :alarmclock119:

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Published 09/03/2014 @ 00:50:18, By dsl
But add in all the other national words for estates we recognise depending on country - Turnier, Combi, Kombi, Stationcar, Station Wagon, Wagon, Stasjonsvogn etc and it becomes a muddy swamp. One advantage of the present system is it does allow national listing for cars with different specs between countries, which is a surprisingly useful search attribute.
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Published 09/03/2014 @ 01:23:21, By antp
We name the car as they were actually named on their local market, so usually according to filming location except if there are other info allowing to identify it more precisely.
So many of the wagons see their name change, but it seems the easiest solution as there are many other name changes between countries (e.g. Japanese local cars vs export, EU vs US, etc.)

@Kegare > I'll see that tomorrow for the Corvette
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Published 09/03/2014 @ 02:11:06, By eLMeR
We name the car as they were actually named on their local market

Seems fair. But the Internet user has to know that the car he knows as a "Break" or as a "Kombi" can also be find as a "Stasjonsvogn", or he will miss a part of the website.
I wouldn't have search with this name, for example :grin:

Are this kind of analogies written somewhere? Will the IMCDb "next generation" have a special text field for that kind of siblings?
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Published 09/03/2014 @ 10:39:41, By antp
That's why there is the "made for" field, to indicate a local variant.
For the search and links between similar models, it will be improved in the future.
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Published 09/03/2014 @ 11:39:51, By antp
Thanks, antp.

Could you also do something about the Corvette post mentioned earlier? It is more appropriate for the C1/C2/C3/C4/C5/C6/C7 codes to show up as generations instead of chassis codes, as the B5/B6/B7/B8 codes show up for the Audi, for example.

http://web-cars.com/corvette/c-generations.php
http://www.corvsport.com/Corvette/Overview.html


Done. There are some Corvette that didn't had a chassis field, it will be quick to manually add the mk info to these.
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Published 17/03/2014 @ 22:44:33, By Axl_Rose
Here are codes for some cars:
Alfa Romeo: All Mito are [955], all 147 [937], all 155 [167], all 156 [932], all 159 [939], all 1990+ 33 [907], all 1983+ 33 [905], all 90 [162A], all 75 and Milano [162B], all 1995+ GTV and Spider [916], all Alfetta, Alfetta GTV and 1977+ Giulietta are [116], with little code variations between them.
Lancia: All first gen Delta are [831], all second gen Delta are [836], all third gen Delta are [844]; all 1984-1994 Thema are [834], all the Lybra SW listed as 1999 are actually 2000 model year.
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Published 18/03/2014 @ 17:19:15, By antp
Thanks, I updated the cars.

For the [116], as many GTV & Alfetta are already listed with special "sub-codes" I didn't change the others of these models.
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Published 18/03/2014 @ 22:52:17, By Axl_Rose
Ok :smile: anyway 2006+ Spiders aren't [916], only 1995-2005, I wasn't precise xD also, the only GTV [916] without year is a 1998+.
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