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Incorrect spelling/listing
Published 25/03/2020 @ 06:54:37, By eLMeR
My bad, the company name changed in 1991 only, but the logo and advertisements did indeed use La Poste from 1984 onwards (pdf, fr).
So, corrected version: the La Poste name shouldn't be used for pre-84 vehicles
In fact, and if I'm not mistaken, the Renault 4 Fourgonnette used by the PTT people was made for all French administration services (EDF/GDF, ONF, firemen...), and the main difference with the other vans was just a small additional window on the cargo box side (called "vitre administration" by this car spare part site). Should we then use "Administration" as complement, as was more or less suggested by sixcyl at least once and as is done for now for specific 4-window Renault R4 and some Citroën DS/ID??
For the other vehicles (Goélette, Galion, Estafette...), I'm not sure that the specs were different from factory models: this complement is most probably not relevant, in these cases.
Latest Edition: 25/03/2020 @ 06:58:43
So, corrected version: the La Poste name shouldn't be used for pre-84 vehicles
In fact, and if I'm not mistaken, the Renault 4 Fourgonnette used by the PTT people was made for all French administration services (EDF/GDF, ONF, firemen...), and the main difference with the other vans was just a small additional window on the cargo box side (called "vitre administration" by this car spare part site). Should we then use "Administration" as complement, as was more or less suggested by sixcyl at least once and as is done for now for specific 4-window Renault R4 and some Citroën DS/ID??
For the other vehicles (Goélette, Galion, Estafette...), I'm not sure that the specs were different from factory models: this complement is most probably not relevant, in these cases.
Latest Edition: 25/03/2020 @ 06:58:43
Incorrect spelling/listing
Published 25/03/2020 @ 08:21:22, By antp
Should we then use "Administration" as complement, as was more or less suggested by sixcyl at least once and as is done for now for specific 4-window Renault R4 and some Citroën DS/ID??
Why not. That's probably more accurate than using "La Poste" as model/extra info
Incorrect spelling/listing
Published 17/05/2020 @ 01:58:29, By Skywatcher68
Just noticed this one in "Family Guy". Listed as a 1979 Ford LTD Country Squire, given that it's a parody of National Lampoon's Vacation, but the greenhouse is clearly that of a Ford Fairmont Squire.
http://imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=1031466
http://imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=1031466
Incorrect spelling/listing
Published 19/05/2020 @ 15:25:41, By Renz203
Hello, is this where they put corrections on vehicles? If so, I'll just have something to correct:
1. This should be "L-300 FB"
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1378088-Mitsubishi-L-300.html
2. Should be a Lancer
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1309598-Mitsubishi-Mirage-C60-1987.html
3. Should be Tamaraw FX, not Kijang. Unless if we will stay true to the setting.
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1309593-Toyota-Kijang-KF40-1993.html
4. Pretty sure they were just sold here as Chrysler 300 Cs, regardless of trims, etc...
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1309621-Chrysler-300-LX-2005.html
5. Quite sure that these Ford vans weren't sold as Econolines of this model years (excluding grey import campervans)
They were just E-150, E-250, E-350, etc... I could be wrong on this one, maybe you could just ignore this vehicle.
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1309587-Ford-Econoline-1997.html
Literally my first comment here on this forum, hope to make friends and stuff. I might look somehow annoying on these request but just want to make the listings right. I do make mistakes when identifying cars on the "unindentified" section of the page, but as humans we all make mistakes.
1. This should be "L-300 FB"
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1378088-Mitsubishi-L-300.html
2. Should be a Lancer
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1309598-Mitsubishi-Mirage-C60-1987.html
3. Should be Tamaraw FX, not Kijang. Unless if we will stay true to the setting.
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1309593-Toyota-Kijang-KF40-1993.html
4. Pretty sure they were just sold here as Chrysler 300 Cs, regardless of trims, etc...
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1309621-Chrysler-300-LX-2005.html
5. Quite sure that these Ford vans weren't sold as Econolines of this model years (excluding grey import campervans)
They were just E-150, E-250, E-350, etc... I could be wrong on this one, maybe you could just ignore this vehicle.
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1309587-Ford-Econoline-1997.html
Literally my first comment here on this forum, hope to make friends and stuff. I might look somehow annoying on these request but just want to make the listings right. I do make mistakes when identifying cars on the "unindentified" section of the page, but as humans we all make mistakes.
Incorrect spelling/listing
Published 19/05/2020 @ 15:54:38, By antp
Normally when you post something in comments, admins will try to check what is posted and apply changes.
Sometimes they wait for confirmation from other members when the info is coming from new members and they can't verify themselves.
Sometimes it is just missed, due to a high number of comments.
If after a few days the comment seems missed, that can be reported on the forum, but not here.
Here it is normally for discussing changes to apply to larger ranges of vehicles.
For such individual corrections it is rather there, in the "Non-Unidentified" thread in the General section:
https://imcdb.opencommunity.be/forum_topic-1987-76888-Non_Unidentified_Vehicles.html#p76888
I've applied the changes.
About the Chrysler 300 C, indeed, in Europe and some Asian countries the C was part of the name.
For the Ford, at some point they started to use E-Series instead of Econoline. It is not fully clear when they changed the name, depending on the sources it is 1992, 1998 or 2002 (or something like that), we used one of the two latter ones.
Latest Edition: 19/05/2020 @ 15:55:09
Sometimes they wait for confirmation from other members when the info is coming from new members and they can't verify themselves.
Sometimes it is just missed, due to a high number of comments.
If after a few days the comment seems missed, that can be reported on the forum, but not here.
Here it is normally for discussing changes to apply to larger ranges of vehicles.
For such individual corrections it is rather there, in the "Non-Unidentified" thread in the General section:
https://imcdb.opencommunity.be/forum_topic-1987-76888-Non_Unidentified_Vehicles.html#p76888
I've applied the changes.
About the Chrysler 300 C, indeed, in Europe and some Asian countries the C was part of the name.
For the Ford, at some point they started to use E-Series instead of Econoline. It is not fully clear when they changed the name, depending on the sources it is 1992, 1998 or 2002 (or something like that), we used one of the two latter ones.
Latest Edition: 19/05/2020 @ 15:55:09
Incorrect spelling/listing
Published 19/08/2020 @ 03:44:38, By eLMeR
As noted by Exiv96, the White "Road Commander II" should be written "Road Commander 2", for consistency with the door badges and brochures.
According to Wikipedia, the model year range of the RC2 is 1975-83: the 28 trucks identified that way in the IMCDb could certainly have 1975 as default model year?
Latest Edition: 19/08/2020 @ 03:46:26
According to Wikipedia, the model year range of the RC2 is 1975-83: the 28 trucks identified that way in the IMCDb could certainly have 1975 as default model year?
Latest Edition: 19/08/2020 @ 03:46:26
Incorrect spelling/listing
Published 20/08/2020 @ 12:52:56, By antp
Done:
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles_make-White_model-Road+Commander+2.html
I also changed two 1972 to 1975
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles_make-White_model-Road+Commander+2.html
I also changed two 1972 to 1975
Incorrect spelling/listing
Published 21/08/2020 @ 01:59:53, By dhill_cb7
Please don’t change the Econoline. I spent A LOT of time fixing the years. If you have an issue please defer to me ...
Edit: the name change occurred 1999. Official brochures say econoline up to early 2000s. However, we use 1999 as the first year for E-Series name.
Latest Edition: 21/08/2020 @ 02:03:32
Edit: the name change occurred 1999. Official brochures say econoline up to early 2000s. However, we use 1999 as the first year for E-Series name.
Latest Edition: 21/08/2020 @ 02:03:32
Incorrect spelling/listing
Published 22/08/2020 @ 11:43:12, By eLMeR
Done:
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles_make-White_model-Road+Commander+2.html
I also changed two 1972 to 1975
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles_make-White_model-Road+Commander+2.html
I also changed two 1972 to 1975
Thanks! I also changed the 1977 MY to 1975, here, as no detail was given to explain that specific MY...
Incorrect spelling/listing
Published 22/08/2020 @ 13:16:22, By eLMeR
One vehicle, 2 names:
• Freightliner FS-65
more precisely:
∗ 8 Freightliner FS-65 Thomas;
∗ 37 Freightliner FS-65 Thomas Built;
∗ 1 Freightliner FS-65 Thomas Saf-T-Liner Conventional;
There are also
∗ 5 Freightliner FS-65 "only", which should be checked by someone to see if with a Thomas body (bus bodies are a little bit off my line of expertise);
∗ 4 FS-65 with a Bluebird body, 1 with a Carpenter body and 1 with a Corbeil body, but these 6 buses are not part of the "Freightliner or Thomas" issue and should clearly stay unchanged.
• Thomas Built Saf-T-Liner FS-65
(15 bus identified that way)
Which name should be kept?
If the following detail may help:
- a Freightliner FS-65 is not a complete vehicle, it's just a bus chassis without body;
- the chassis was developed by Freightliner in partnership with Thomas Built;
- when unveiled in June 1996 it had a Thomas body;
- the two first buses that were sold, in January 1997, had a Thomas body;
- if available along with Bluebird, Carpenter and Corbeil bodies from 1997 onwards, the Thomas one remained the last one to be proposed from 2002 until the end of 2006...
Shouldn't we use the Thomas Built Saf-T-Liner FS-65 ID for all buses clearly identified as Thomas versions, and keep the Freightliner FS-65 one only for the non-Thomas bodies, the same way it's done for other bus chassis?
• Freightliner FS-65
more precisely:
∗ 8 Freightliner FS-65 Thomas;
∗ 37 Freightliner FS-65 Thomas Built;
∗ 1 Freightliner FS-65 Thomas Saf-T-Liner Conventional;
There are also
∗ 5 Freightliner FS-65 "only", which should be checked by someone to see if with a Thomas body (bus bodies are a little bit off my line of expertise);
∗ 4 FS-65 with a Bluebird body, 1 with a Carpenter body and 1 with a Corbeil body, but these 6 buses are not part of the "Freightliner or Thomas" issue and should clearly stay unchanged.
• Thomas Built Saf-T-Liner FS-65
(15 bus identified that way)
Which name should be kept?
If the following detail may help:
- a Freightliner FS-65 is not a complete vehicle, it's just a bus chassis without body;
- the chassis was developed by Freightliner in partnership with Thomas Built;
- when unveiled in June 1996 it had a Thomas body;
- the two first buses that were sold, in January 1997, had a Thomas body;
- if available along with Bluebird, Carpenter and Corbeil bodies from 1997 onwards, the Thomas one remained the last one to be proposed from 2002 until the end of 2006...
Shouldn't we use the Thomas Built Saf-T-Liner FS-65 ID for all buses clearly identified as Thomas versions, and keep the Freightliner FS-65 one only for the non-Thomas bodies, the same way it's done for other bus chassis?
Incorrect spelling/listing
Published 14/09/2020 @ 17:29:04, By Renz203
Change to Hyundai Grace:
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_686663-Mitsubishi-Delica-Star-Wagon-P00-1986.html
Mitsubishi L300 Versa Van:
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_736611-Mitsubishi-Delica-Star-Wagon-1980.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1035094-Mitsubishi-Delica-Star-Wagon-1983.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1422423-Mitsubishi-Delica-Star-Wagon-L030-1983.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_686663-Mitsubishi-Delica-Star-Wagon-P00-1986.html
Mitsubishi L300 Versa Van:
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_736611-Mitsubishi-Delica-Star-Wagon-1980.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1035094-Mitsubishi-Delica-Star-Wagon-1983.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1422423-Mitsubishi-Delica-Star-Wagon-L030-1983.html
Incorrect spelling/listing
Published 26/09/2020 @ 06:17:42, By eLMeR
One vehicle, 2 names:
• Freightliner FS-65
[...]
• Thomas Built Saf-T-Liner FS-65
[...]
Shouldn't we use the Thomas Built Saf-T-Liner FS-65 ID for all buses clearly identified as Thomas versions, and keep the Freightliner FS-65 one only for the non-Thomas bodies, the same way it's done for other bus chassis?
• Freightliner FS-65
[...]
• Thomas Built Saf-T-Liner FS-65
[...]
Shouldn't we use the Thomas Built Saf-T-Liner FS-65 ID for all buses clearly identified as Thomas versions, and keep the Freightliner FS-65 one only for the non-Thomas bodies, the same way it's done for other bus chassis?
As no one seems to disagree with it, is it Ok to change the 46 Freightliner FS-65 Thomas / Thomas Built / Thomas Saf-T-Liner Conventional to Thomas Built Saf-T-Liner FS-65 (without '(with) Freightliner chassis' complement nor [FS-65] model code, which would be redundant)?
Incorrect spelling/listing
Published 26/09/2020 @ 06:23:58, By eLMeR
As GMC stopped to promote the Sierra as "C/K-Something" in 1992 to use Sierra Something 2WD/4WD instead, aren't the 116 1992+ Sierra 'C-Something'1 and the 107 1992+ Sierra 'K-Something' present in the IMCDb identified with a wrong complement?
Carfax apparently still uses the C-K nomenclature, which is weird as I didn't find any current corporate GMC document with it, the last model code more or less using it appearing to be the TC/TK-something one used by the GMT400 generation (and which should, then, appear in the model code, not as complement).
(1988 & 1991 brochures: C/K-1500)
(1992 Sierra, 1997 Commercial Truck & 1999 Sierra Classic 1500 brochures: x500 2WD/4WD)
For the record, it appears that the 1992+ Suburban never used the C/K nomenclature either, so these 8 SUVs should probably be corrected too?
__________
1: there also 15 Topkick in the linked pages, but if I'm not mistaken, it's still impossible to make a search on both the name and the complement fields.
Latest Edition: 26/09/2020 @ 06:28:32
Carfax apparently still uses the C-K nomenclature, which is weird as I didn't find any current corporate GMC document with it, the last model code more or less using it appearing to be the TC/TK-something one used by the GMT400 generation (and which should, then, appear in the model code, not as complement).
(1988 & 1991 brochures: C/K-1500)
(1992 Sierra, 1997 Commercial Truck & 1999 Sierra Classic 1500 brochures: x500 2WD/4WD)
For the record, it appears that the 1992+ Suburban never used the C/K nomenclature either, so these 8 SUVs should probably be corrected too?
__________
1: there also 15 Topkick in the linked pages, but if I'm not mistaken, it's still impossible to make a search on both the name and the complement fields.
Latest Edition: 26/09/2020 @ 06:28:32
Incorrect spelling/listing
Published 26/09/2020 @ 07:52:02, By night cub
Looking at VINs, it looks like GM did continue to ID them with C and K through 2010, and that is what Carfax or Autocheck is looking at. The 2011my is when the VINs change up.
https://www.genuinegmparts.com/src/pdf/resources/1960-2020_Vincards.pdf
https://www.genuinegmparts.com/src/pdf/resources/1960-2020_Vincards.pdf
Incorrect spelling/listing
Published 28/09/2020 @ 07:56:23, By antp
As no one seems to disagree with it, is it Ok to change the 46 Freightliner FS-65 Thomas / Thomas Built / Thomas Saf-T-Liner Conventional to Thomas Built Saf-T-Liner FS-65 (without '(with) Freightliner chassis' complement nor [FS-65] model code, which would be redundant)?
To me it is OK.
Shall I do batch-rename or is that more a manual task?
Incorrect spelling/listing
Published 05/10/2021 @ 03:02:39, By Ddey65
This thread is old, but I have to bring a certain fact up;
This truck is a Mack N-Series, not a Ford C-Series:
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=1546651
This truck is a Mack N-Series, not a Ford C-Series:
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=1546651